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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Feb 25 @ 10:39 AM ET



winning Melnyk more money.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008
Feb 25 @ 7:52 PM ET
Senators have developed a "wining culture" in their organization, and it really contrasts with the "losing culture" that the Oilers have instilled in their organization.

Senators get behind in games, and don't give up, they continue to push to win games, and the Oilers get behind by a couple of goals late in games, and pack it in and go through the motions and simply play out the remaining time.
- D0PPELGANGER

Winning culture
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006
Feb 26 @ 11:19 PM ET
Winning culture
- Cape Breton Bruins
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Feb 27 @ 8:38 AM ET
It really was the best.

I mean he could have said they are trying to develop a winning culture and it would've been acceptable but nope.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Feb 27 @ 9:17 AM ET
It really was the best.

I mean he could have said they are trying to develop a winning culture and it would've been acceptable but nope.
- daeth


Some teams, over the past decade, have developed a Tanking culture, in their organization, and it shows on the ice. This is not the case with the Senators, it would have been so easy to have thrown in the towel last season (around this time) but the Senators kept playing to win, right to the end of the season........ and they're doing so again this season.............. not saying that they'll catch lighting in a bottle again this season, but teams who are managed and coached to tank unwittingly might be instilling the wrong mindset with their young players........... this is not happening with the Senators, but as I pointed out in my original post on this subject, the tanking mindset was clearly evident with many young Oilers players, once they fell behind late in the game vs the Senators.

This is perhaps why you may have read a few opinion pieces about the need for a culture change in Edmonton, and potential trades to do just that.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Feb 27 @ 9:45 AM ET
Senators have developed a "wining culture" in their organization, and it really contrasts with the "losing culture" that the Oilers have instilled in their organization.

Senators get behind in games, and don't give up, they continue to push to win games, and the Oilers get behind by a couple of goals late in games, and pack it in and go through the motions and simply play out the remaining time.
- D0PPELGANGER


Oh

Well congrats on all that winning
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006
Feb 27 @ 10:48 AM ET
Oh

Well congrats on all that winning
- senstroll

maybe he meant a winning bacterial culture
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Feb 28 @ 9:07 AM ET
Oh

Well congrats on all that winning
- senstroll


Same to you and your teams' tanking prowess, may they become the Oilers of the the East.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Feb 29 @ 3:26 PM ET
Same to you and your teams' tanking prowess, may they become the Oilers of the the East.
- D0PPELGANGER

wasn't Prince one of those key pieces from Binghamton?


Was he up for a raise or something?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Feb 29 @ 3:28 PM ET
wasn't Prince one of those key pieces from Binghamton?


Was he up for a raise or something?
- Feeling Glucky?
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Feb 29 @ 3:30 PM ET
lol
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Feb 29 @ 3:31 PM ET

- Pecafan Fan

He actually is an RFA
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Feb 29 @ 3:37 PM ET
must suck to be a sens fan and a jays fan
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Feb 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
must suck to be a sens fan and a jays fan
- daeth

can't wait to see who else gets the cut for the Sens to afford Phaneuf's salary
The Truth
Joined: 09.15.2005
Feb 29 @ 11:28 PM ET
leafs are the bottom of the league but are building an asset pool
sens are top heavy

neither going anywhere
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006
Feb 29 @ 11:29 PM ET
leafs are the bottom of the league but are building an asset pool
sens are top heavy

neither going anywhere
- The Truth

quoted for the truth...
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Mar 1 @ 9:04 AM ET
wasn't Prince one of those key pieces from Binghamton?


Was he up for a raise or something?
- Feeling Glucky?


Was never a big fan of Prince....... Spatso, a number of years ago called him the "sleeper pick" of the draft..........but I watched him play for the 67s and did not see what Spatso saw.

It was obvious that he fell down the depth chart this season, Dzingle and Paul have both passed him, and saw more playing time in the last month, and they recalled Pumpel, who was only sent down because he had a 2 way, and Prince had a 1way.

Heck, back in November they Dressed a Dman to play Left wing for a couple of games, while Prince sat in the press box for those games........so the writing was on the wall back then, and when given a chance to show he was worthy he failed to move up in the line up, so his lack of motivation was being questioned.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Mar 1 @ 9:06 AM ET
can't wait to see who else gets the cut for the Sens to afford Phaneuf's salary
- Feeling Glucky?



Pumpel was recalled to replace him, and his salary is higher than Princes' was.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Mar 2 @ 8:30 AM ET
Same to you and your teams' tanking prowess, may they become the Oilers of the the East.
- D0PPELGANGER


Lets hope ...winning the lottery would help
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Mar 2 @ 9:24 AM ET
Lets hope ...winning the lottery would help
- senstroll



Any thoughts on the call ups from the marlies?
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
Mar 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
Any thoughts on the call ups from the marlies?
- D0PPELGANGER

All of them played well in their first game.

Hyman wasn't high up on the depth chart but he surprised and I thought he was excellent. Great forecheck & backcheck. Good offensive instincts.

Soshnikov was really similar. Good in both zones. Backchecked hard. Got skill.

Nylander - won more than half of the face offs, had some great vision and set up some nasty plays. Looked deadly on the PP

Kapanen - kid can dangle

Carrick - solid defender. Could be the guy to compliment Rielly.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Mar 2 @ 10:13 AM ET
All of them played well in their first game.

Hyman wasn't high up on the depth chart but he surprised and I thought he was excellent. Great forecheck & backcheck. Good offensive instincts.

Soshnikov was really similar. Good in both zones. Backchecked hard. Got skill.

Nylander - won more than half of the face offs, had some great vision and set up some nasty plays. Looked deadly on the PP

Kapanen - kid can dangle

Carrick - solid defender. Could be the guy to compliment Rielly.
- twiztedmike



Saw Kapanen in the highlights, looked good.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
Mar 2 @ 10:15 AM ET
Saw Kapanen in the highlights, looked good.
- D0PPELGANGER

I hope playing all this youth makes them look more like the Sens of last year than the Edmonton of every year
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Mar 2 @ 10:26 AM ET
I hope playing all this youth makes them look more like the Sens of last year than the Edmonton of every year
- twiztedmike



Sens played a pretty good game last night, even though all they got was one point, a well earned one point.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
Mar 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
Sens played a pretty good game last night, even though all they got was one point, a well earned one point.
- D0PPELGANGER

How would you rate the ceiling on these players?
- Hoffman (SENS)
- Stone (Sens)
- Ryan O'Reilly (Sabres)

Got Hoffman, Stone and ROR in a keeper pool
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