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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Mar 7 @ 11:00 AM ET
i would rather be a leafs fan....the sens are on the bridge to nowhere
wasting karlssons prime
- The Truth


they are, Cameron is benching their best goal scorer. DC is one of the worst coaches imo.. They are again looking at another pick in the 12-15 range..same as Lazar and Ceci...who are very meh.

Terrible place to be..and thats speaking from leafs fan experience
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Mar 7 @ 11:03 AM ET
they are, Cameron is benching their best goal scorer. DC is one of the worst coaches imo.. They are again looking at another pick in the 12-15 range..same as Lazar and Ceci...who are very meh.

Terrible place to be..and thats speaking from leafs fan experience
- senstroll



Funny how other GMs always ask for Ceci or Lazar whenever there's some sort of trade rumour.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Mar 7 @ 11:23 AM ET
Funny how other GMs always ask for Ceci or Lazar whenever there's some sort of trade rumour.
- D0PPELGANGER

who the (frank) else are they going to ask for?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Mar 7 @ 11:29 AM ET
Funny how other GMs always ask for Ceci or Lazar whenever there's some sort of trade rumour.
- D0PPELGANGER


umm yeah...
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Mar 7 @ 12:02 PM ET
umm yeah...
- senstroll

can you think of a better criticism of Ottawa's youth?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Mar 10 @ 9:02 AM ET
can you think of a better criticism of Ottawa's youth?
- Feeling Glucky?



So when other GMs covet young players on Ottawa's roster, when talking trade, it's a criticism?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ceci-tampa-bay-lightning/
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Mar 10 @ 9:22 AM ET
Senators have developed a "wining culture" in their organization, and it really contrasts with the "losing culture" that the Oilers have instilled in their organization.

Senators get behind in games, and don't give up, they continue to push to win games, and the Oilers get behind by a couple of goals late in games, and pack it in and go through the motions and simply play out the remaining time.
- D0PPELGANGER



You spelled "whining" wrong.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Mar 10 @ 9:23 AM ET
He can play with a puck like it's on a string, and is one of the fastest skaters in the league.

Needs to up his game in last third of the season, to earn a big payday once his contract is up.
- D0PPELGANGER


Thanks Garth.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Mar 10 @ 9:26 AM ET
So when other GMs covet the one decent young player on Ottawa's roster, when talking trade, it's a criticism?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ceci-tampa-bay-lightning/
- D0PPELGANGER


Fixed.

Yes.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Mar 10 @ 9:40 AM ET
So when other GMs covet young players on Ottawa's roster, when talking trade, it's a criticism?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ceci-tampa-bay-lightning/
- D0PPELGANGER



Is there a difference between "covet" and "he's the only thing worthwhile"
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Mar 10 @ 12:24 PM ET
↑ What they said.↑
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Mar 10 @ 12:48 PM ET
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...development-model-better/

Are we looking at the final 15 games of Mike Hoffman’s tenure in Ottawa? Sure looks like it. The winger was benched Saturday in Toronto, then played 13:46 the next night against Dallas. I talked about it with one agent (not Hoffman’s), who points out the contract power pendulum will switch from the club, which did very well in his arbitration case last summer, to the player. He is one year from unrestricted free agency, and can go to arbitration once again. This time, his resume is deeper, as he’s become one of the best even-strength scorers in the league. Unless the Senators believe in him enough to offer a lengthy extension, and their usage certainly indicates doubt, you can’t let him walk for nothing.


It's a shame Ottawa is so cheap. It's hard to keep a competitive roster when you have to get rid of guys as soon as they want money.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Mar 10 @ 2:22 PM ET
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...development-model-better/


It's a shame Ottawa is so cheap. It's hard to keep a competitive roster when you have to get rid of guys as soon as they want money.
- daeth



2 seasons in a row, his scoring has all but disappeared in the last quarter of the season.

Logical to let him play out the season, and access what his worth is.

Sure is funny reading leaf fans talk about paying players, when they have a rich history of paying guys like David Clarkson for scoring goals when it counts the most.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Mar 10 @ 4:27 PM ET
2 seasons in a row, his scoring has all but disappeared in the last quarter of the season.

Logical to let him play out the season, and access what his worth is.

Sure is funny reading leaf fans talk about paying players, when they have a rich history of paying guys like David Clarkson for scoring goals when it counts the most.
- D0PPELGANGER


clarke macarthur says hello
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Mar 10 @ 4:29 PM ET
Clarkson isn't Toronto's problem anymore.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Mar 10 @ 4:37 PM ET
clarke macarthur says hello
- Tumbleweed


Currently having a beer with Kyle Turris.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Mar 10 @ 5:04 PM ET
Clarkson isn't Toronto's problem anymore.
- daeth


funny, leafs contract problems were always clarkson, phanuef and kessel.


macarthur, phaneuf and ryan are generally just as bad.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Mar 10 @ 7:06 PM ET
Clarkson isn't Toronto's problem anymore.
- daeth

Pretty sweet that the owners in TO have enough money that they can do the type of trade that got rid of him.


Thank you Dopps, for the excellent example of Toronto's spending power.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Mar 14 @ 10:46 AM ET
https://www.facebook.com/...videos/10153940047614477/
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008
Mar 22 @ 9:23 AM ET
Nylander > Turris
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Mar 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
Breaking!! Sens are hot Garbage

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Hard to tell who is safe and who isn't in Ottawa, based on owners comments. Sens will pay Paul Maclean for another season for not coaching.

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Not long after Eugene Melnyk hammers his team, predicts changes, Dave Cameron calmly says he pays the bills and is entitled to his opinion


Rebuild the Rebuild
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Mar 22 @ 12:51 PM ET
Travis Yost ‏@travisyost
Ottawa has won 48% of games since 2007 and has never made it past RD2. Is merely a new coach really going to change that? I'm skeptical.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Mar 23 @ 8:45 AM ET
I think the Sens are a lot worse off than the leafs for sure.. Melnyk is just loony.
thankfully Leafs owners have let Shanny do his thing..and its going to pay off big..I have no doubt.


James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
James Mirtle Retweeted SensChirp
Ownership is part of the problem in many Canadian NHL cities...

James Mirtle added,
SensChirp @SensChirp
Melnyk says he he has lots of experience in analytics. Horse racing analytics. Says experienced hockey guys don't need analytics. Yiikes.

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
I think this is why some US teams succeed where Canadian ones don't. They're second or third fiddle for an owner. They get left alone.

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
Anyway... add that to the list of why Canadian teams don't win. 23 years! Crazy.



that horse racing quote is (frank)ing great...and by great I mean wtf??
Melnyk is so concerned about spending money.. adding an anylitics department who could at the very least advise on if a player should be signed...they could save millions for mistakes like Greening, Michalek etc.. the ROI would be huge
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Mar 31 @ 8:43 AM ET
Sens won and still Eliminated from Playoffs... sound about right
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Mar 31 @ 10:21 AM ET
Sens won and still Eliminated from Playoffs... sound about right
- senstroll


Were the leafs eliminated yet?
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