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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
May 1 @ 12:48 PM ET
I trust this thread will now be locked?
- muffin_man



It's a pretty easy answer at this point, and for at least the next 5 years. There really is just about nothing you can say the Sens have as an advantage over the Leafs in.

Management - massive advantage Leafs.
ownership - massive advantage Leafs.
coaching - massive advantage Leafs.
budget - Massive advantage Leafs.
rosters - pretty close.
prospects - massive advantage Leafs.

I could go on. Fanbase (translates to attendance). Building. City the team resides in. Everything really.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
May 1 @ 12:52 PM ET
Matthews will suffer re-ocurring foot injuries and the team will bring Brian Burke in as a special advisor. He will then convince ownership to hire Patrick Burke and have them claim he had nothing to do with the interview process. Shanannanananahan will resign when Burke is hired. World will end.
- PhillySportsGuy

you doing ok? i know i am with matthews coming to town and such.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
May 1 @ 12:53 PM ET
but yeah, lock this thread please
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 1 @ 6:31 PM ET
It's a pretty easy answer at this point, and for at least the next 5 years. There really is just about nothing you can say the Sens have as an advantage over the Leafs in.

Management - massive advantage Leafs.
ownership - massive advantage Leafs.
coaching - massive advantage Leafs.
budget - Massive advantage Leafs.
rosters - pretty close.
prospects - massive advantage Leafs.

I could go on. Fanbase (translates to attendance). Building. City the team resides in. Everything really.
- prock



You left out Performance on the ice - massive advantage Sens for the past decade
Making the playoffs - massive advantage Sens for the past decade
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007
May 1 @ 6:35 PM ET
You left out Performance on the ice - massive advantage Sens for the past decade
Making the playoffs - massive advantage Sens for the past decade
- D0PPELGANGER

would be a relevant post if this was the WHO was in a better situation: LEAFS or SENS?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
May 1 @ 6:40 PM ET
You left out Performance on the ice - massive advantage Sens for the past decade
Making the playoffs - massive advantage Sens for the past decade
- D0PPELGANGER

Well since we're going to the past...


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golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
May 1 @ 7:01 PM ET
would be a relevant post if this was the WHO was in a better situation: LEAFS or SENS?
- Crimsoninja


Considering this thread started last millennium it kind of is.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007
May 1 @ 7:03 PM ET
I would love to see an actual argument that the Sens are in a better position. Even Dopps should have to admit it now.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
May 2 @ 9:19 AM ET
You left out Performance on the ice - massive advantage Sens for the past decade
Making the playoffs - massive advantage Sens for the past decade
- D0PPELGANGER




congrats on making it to the 2nd round once in the past 9 season

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
May 2 @ 9:21 AM ET
This is not a bad scenario ............. why wait for a couple of years for Matthews to develop, two NHL tested front line players for him, accelerates the leafs rebuild by at least two years.
- D0PPELGANGER


there is no chance the leafs Trade #1 for that offer
they will draft Matthews
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 2 @ 10:18 AM ET


congrats on making it to the 2nd round once in the past 9 season
- senstroll



Congrates on not making it to the SC Finals for 50 years.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
May 2 @ 10:54 AM ET
Congrates on not making it to the SC Finals for 50 years.
- D0PPELGANGER


you are the one making the claims about the Sens success... the truth Stings I know... I have no illusions about the leafs past.

You continue to post about how much more successful the Sens have been.. making 1 second round in a decade is (frank)ing awful if thats what you are hanging your hat on

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 2 @ 1:53 PM ET
you are the one making the claims about the Sens success... the truth Stings I know... I have no illusions about the leafs past.

You continue to post about how much more successful the Sens have been.. making 1 second round in a decade is fucking awful if thats what you are hanging your hat on
- senstroll


Did you forget the 2007 finals, less that 9 years ago?

So how do you measure "success"?

I keep hearing leaf fans say " well you did not win the cup " in 2007. So is winning the the cup the only measure of success when comparing a team to another?

What about getting to the finals, or the Conference finals? Does that count as a measure of success. Finishing higher in the standings? Wining a division, a playoff series?

Please, explain how do you measure "success"?

Just what should we "hang our hat" on, in your POV.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
May 2 @ 1:55 PM ET
Did you forget the 2007 finals, less that 9 years ago?

So how do you measure "success"?

I keep hearing leaf fans say " well you did not win the cup " in 2007. So is winning the the cup the only measure of success when comparing a team to another?

What about getting to the finals, or the Conference finals? Does that count as a measure of success. Finishing higher in the standings? Wining a division, a playoff series?

Please, explain how do you measure "success"?

Just what should we "hang our hat" on, in your POV.
- D0PPELGANGER

How come when it comes to Global Warming you ignore all empirical evidence and science-based facts and statistics but when it comes to Leafs & Sens you take a complete opposite stance?
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007
May 2 @ 2:05 PM ET
How come when it comes to Global Warming you ignore all empirical evidence and science-based facts and statistics but when it comes to Leafs & Sens you take a complete opposite stance?
- twiztedmike

Not to mention he has completely abandoned the "Sens are in a better position" stance and is now going for the "Sens have had a better last 9 years" argument...
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 2 @ 2:13 PM ET
How come when it comes to Global Warming you ignore all empirical evidence and science-based facts and statistics but when it comes to Leafs & Sens you take a complete opposite stance?
- twiztedmike


Could you please post the "empirical evidence and science-based facts and statistics" that prove that Humans are causing Global Warming.

Then we can have a debate if you'd like, but I'll wait for your "empirical evidence and science-based facts and statistics" .
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
May 2 @ 2:15 PM ET
Could you please post the "empirical evidence and science-based facts and statistics" that prove that Humans are causing Global Warming.

Then we can have a debate if you'd like, but I'll wait for your "empirical evidence and science-based facts and statistics" .
- D0PPELGANGER

I think the point is that they have all been posted but you just ignore them because they don't agree with your view
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
May 2 @ 2:20 PM ET
Did you forget the 2007 finals, less that 9 years ago?

So how do you measure "success"?

I keep hearing leaf fans say " well you did not win the cup " in 2007. So is winning the the cup the only measure of success when comparing a team to another?

What about getting to the finals, or the Conference finals? Does that count as a measure of success. Finishing higher in the standings? Wining a division, a playoff series?

Please, explain how do you measure "success"?

Just what should we "hang our hat" on, in your POV.
- D0PPELGANGER



since the sens went to the finals there has been 9 seasons
1 second round in that time

SUCCESS!
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 2 @ 2:48 PM ET
since the sens went to the finals there has been 9 seasons
1 second round in that time

SUCCESS!
- senstroll


And the leafs?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
May 2 @ 4:32 PM ET
And the leafs?
- D0PPELGANGER

13 cups to the senator's 0.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 2 @ 8:39 PM ET
13 cups to the senator's 0.
- Feeling Glucky?


So you want to Count Cups eh?

Ottawa has few as well.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
May 2 @ 8:47 PM ET
So you want to Count Cups eh?

Ottawa has few as well.
- D0PPELGANGER



Ummmm
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 2 @ 8:56 PM ET
Ummmm
- burn



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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
May 2 @ 9:05 PM ET
1903, 1904, 1905, 1906, 1909, 1911, 1920, 1921, 1923, 1927
- D0PPELGANGER
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
May 2 @ 9:07 PM ET
1903, 1904, 1905, 1906, 1909, 1911, 1920, 1921, 1923, 1927
- D0PPELGANGER
The future looks oh so (frank)ing bright!!!
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