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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 9 @ 11:25 PM ET
Yes
- Crimsoninja


By then the government will have confiscated all the guns.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007
May 9 @ 11:27 PM ET
By then the government will have confiscated all the guns.
- D0PPELGANGER
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
May 10 @ 12:55 AM ET
By then the government will have confiscated all the guns.
- D0PPELGANGER


Way to dodge a bullet there
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
May 10 @ 4:08 AM ET
Solid signings by the Sens.

Boucher should help the team defensively, Crow is also an accomplished coach.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 10 @ 8:59 AM ET
Solid signings by the Sens.

Boucher should help the team defensively, Crow is also an accomplished coach.
- golfingsince


Clearly the players are now under the spotlight, as this core has now gone through 2 or 3 coaches, if you include Cory Clouston.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
May 10 @ 1:11 PM ET
Leafs in a better position. Easy. Sens can enjoy another year of bragging before the tide starts turning.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 10 @ 3:11 PM ET
Leafs in a better position. Easy. Sens can enjoy another year of bragging before the tide starts turning.
- systemtool


So right now, the Sens are in the better position?

Must be if you see the tide turning in a year from now.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
May 10 @ 3:26 PM ET
So right now, the Sens are in the better position?

Must be if you see the tide turning in a year from now.
- D0PPELGANGER


Maybe if you see being a crappy team and missing the playoffs while getting mediocre draft picks better than being a crappy team and missing the playoffs while getting Elite draft picks
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
May 10 @ 3:32 PM ET
your moms are in the better position, resting on my Richard

next topic please
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
May 10 @ 3:40 PM ET
your moms are in the better position, resting on my Richard

next topic please
- twiztedmike
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
May 10 @ 6:52 PM ET
So right now, the Sens are in the better position?

Must be if you see the tide turning in a year from now.
- D0PPELGANGER



No. Just existing. I'd be jealous if the Sens were in a better position. And I'm not. At all. I wouldn't trade one team for another so the answer is simply no.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 11 @ 12:08 AM ET
Maybe if you see being a crappy team and missing the playoffs while getting mediocre draft picks better than being a crappy team and missing the playoffs while getting Elite draft picks
- senstroll


Senators have done very well drafting players in the later rounds.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
May 11 @ 2:15 AM ET
Senators have done very well drafting players in the later rounds.
- D0PPELGANGER

bad players
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
May 11 @ 8:01 AM ET
why do leafs fans get so sensitive when someone initiates some actual discussion about this rebuild and the challenges that still remain as the process moves forward?

its fascinating to see the hive mind in action as the wagons get circled.
- Crimsoninja


Yeah THAT's what we get *sensitive* about. We get all bent out of shape about someone initiating a discussion.

here's an idea... read the posts from the Sens fans for the past 10 pages or so. They are sad and amusing.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
May 11 @ 8:01 AM ET
Senators have done very well drafting players in the later rounds.
- D0PPELGANGER


By "well" do you mean they pronounced the names almost properly?

They better do well because those are the only guys your owner will pay for long term.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
May 11 @ 8:06 AM ET
So right now, the Sens are in the better position?

Must be if you see the tide turning in a year from now.
- D0PPELGANGER



So what you are saying is that not even you can support your own position, so you've given up and your arguement has been reduced to semantics at this point?

No, the Leafs are in a better position, now.

At some point, don't you sad idiots have to realize that this case is closed. Nobody who knows anything about hockey would trade the leafs roster + prospects + coach + owner for the sens roster + prospects + coach + owner. It is not even remotely close.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 11 @ 9:11 AM ET
By "well" do you mean they pronounced the names almost properly?

They better do well because those are the only guys your owner will pay for long term.
- Aetherial



Daniel Alfredsson 133rd overall
Chris Neil 161st overall
Mike Fisher 44th overall
Chris Kelly 94th overall
Brian Elliott 291st overall
Zack Smith 79th overall
Mike Hoffman 130th overall
Mark Stone 178th overall

just to name a few
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
May 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
Checked hockeysfuture, the hockey news and bleacher report. All have the Leafs top 5 in prospects. Even first in one case. That's not including this year's draft where the Leafs have 3 picks in the top 31.

Sens were mid 20's across the board.


I'm not saying. I'm just saying.

Considering both teams missing the playoffs this year. Which situation would you rather be in?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
May 11 @ 9:56 AM ET
Checked hockeysfuture, the hockey news and bleacher report. All have the Leafs top 5 in prospects. Even first in one case. That's not including this year's draft where the Leafs have 3 picks in the top 31.

Sens were mid 20's across the board.


I'm not saying. I'm just saying.

Considering both teams missing the playoffs this year. Which situation would you rather be in?
- systemtool



But the Sens drafted Chris Neil 161st overall
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
May 11 @ 10:02 AM ET
But the Sens drafted Chris Neil 161st overall
- senstroll
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 11 @ 12:16 PM ET
But the Sens drafted Chris Neil 161st overall
- senstroll



14 solid seasons, playing his "role", and will be back for another season.

Let's see who the leafs drafted in the same draft, around the 161 spot......

126 Morgan Warren -- never played a game in the NHL
154 Allan Rourke -- played 55 games in the NHL, zero for the leafs
181 Jonathan Gagnon -- never played a game in the NHL


Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
May 11 @ 3:48 PM ET
Daniel Alfredsson 133rd overall
Chris Neil 161st overall
Mike Fisher 44th overall
Chris Kelly 94th overall
Brian Elliott 291st overall
Zack Smith 79th overall
Mike Hoffman 130th overall
Mark Stone 178th overall

just to name a few
- D0PPELGANGER


Who is a in a better situation: SENS OR DANIEL ALFREDSSON’S BACK?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008
May 11 @ 4:52 PM ET
14 solid seasons, playing his "role", and will be back for another season.

Let's see who the leafs drafted in the same draft, around the 161 spot......

126 Morgan Warren -- never played a game in the NHL
154 Allan Rourke -- played 55 games in the NHL, zero for the leafs
181 Jonathan Gagnon -- never played a game in the NHL



- D0PPELGANGER


Who WAS in a better situation eh?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
May 11 @ 4:57 PM ET
Who WAS in a better situation eh?
- Cape Breton Bruins


What in God's name was that guy trying to post and prove
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
May 11 @ 6:18 PM ET
What in God's name was that guy trying to post and prove
- systemtool

He's showing how easy it is to make an argument if you just ignore massive amounts of data, and just cherry pick the facts that suit your needs.


In reality, the Leafs have a comparable, if not superior pool of talent from late in the draft.

But reality is biased against everything Dopps believes in.
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