certainly Stamkos will help
- spatso

Leafs made him an offer, it wasn't enough.

C'est la vie. Good thing they didn't go all out with a max contract

Leafs made him an offer, it wasn't enough.

C'est la vie. Good thing they didn't go all out with a max contract
- Feeling Glucky?

i agree. i think the leafs avoided a really difficult long term problem.

Leafs made him an offer, it wasn't enough.

C'est la vie. Good thing they didn't go all out with a max contract
- Feeling Glucky?

The leafs owner is a real cheapo, would not offer enough cash to entice Stamkos to play in his hometown.

The cheapo owner even brought in the CEO of Canadian Tire, to entice him with more endorsement money to sign with the cheapo leafs owner.

The leafs cheapo owner even had the Mayor of toronto beg Stamkos to sign with the leafs ............. pathetic!

The leafs owner is a real cheapo, would not offer enough cash to entice Stamkos to play in his hometown.

The cheapo owner even brought in the CEO of Canadian Tire, to entice him with more endorsement money to sign with the cheapo leafs owner.

The leafs cheapo owner even had the Mayor of toronto beg Stamkos to sign with the leafs ............. pathetic!
- D0PPELGANGER

The leafs owner is a real cheapo, would not offer enough cash to entice Stamkos to play in his hometown.

The cheapo owner even brought in the CEO of Canadian Tire, to entice him with more endorsement money to sign with the cheapo leafs owner.

The leafs cheapo owner even had the Mayor of toronto beg Stamkos to sign with the leafs ............. pathetic!
- D0PPELGANGER

Sorry dopps, there's a difference between smart cap management and running a budget team to fuel an extended vacation in Barbados.

The leafs owner is a real cheapo, would not offer enough cash to entice Stamkos to play in his hometown.

The cheapo owner even brought in the CEO of Canadian Tire, to entice him with more endorsement money to sign with the cheapo leafs owner.

The leafs cheapo owner even had the Mayor of toronto beg Stamkos to sign with the leafs ............. pathetic!
- D0PPELGANGER

You are certifiable.

If I'm Stamkos, I prefer to win soon, in a place that wants to win, instead of a place that offres me to make a lot of cash backed by Canadian tire.

My point is: Tampa was offering a poopload of cash and a real chance to win. Toronto played the money card mostly. And maybe one day, a chance to win, under the Toronto microscope.


To me, the choice is easy.

If I'm Stamkos, I prefer to win soon, in a place that wants to win, instead of a place that offres me to make a lot of cash backed by Canadian tire.

My point is: Tampa was offering a poopload of cash and a real chance to win. Toronto played the money card mostly. And maybe one day, a chance to win, under the Toronto microscope.


To me, the choice is easy.
- Pecafan Fan

Plus the way the contract is structured with massive signing bonuses each year, circumventing some tax laws, he is going to make more money than the cheapo Sahanaplan was prepared to offer.

bottom line the leafs did not step up to the plate and deliver the money required to sign Stamkos ............ and the same story will play out in two years when they won't offer John Tavares enough money to play for the leafs............ but leaf fans will get sucked into believing it will happen just like they bet the bank on Stamkos.

Plus the way the contract is structured with massive signing bonuses each year, circumventing some tax laws, he is going to make more money than the cheapo Sahanaplan was prepared to offer.

bottom line the leafs did not step up to the plate and deliver the money required to sign Stamkos ............ and the same story will play out in two years when they won't offer John Tavares enough money to play for the leafs............ but leaf fans will get sucked into believing it will happen just like they bet the bank on Stamkos.
- D0PPELGANGER

It has very little to do with money.

Imho.

Plus the way the contract is structured with massive signing bonuses each year, circumventing some tax laws, he is going to make more money than the cheapo Sahanaplan was prepared to offer.

bottom line the leafs did not step up to the plate and deliver the money required to sign Stamkos ............ and the same story will play out in two years when they won't offer John Tavares enough money to play for the leafs............ but leaf fans will get sucked into believing it will happen just like they bet the bank on Stamkos.
- D0PPELGANGER

The leafs are the cheapest cheapskates that ever cheapskated

It has very little to do with money.

Imho.
- Pecafan Fan

I'm pretty sure there were reports in the Media about year or so ago, about his parents moving to Tampa ...... and that was a clear sign that he was most likely to re-sign with Tampa.

But the Tax laws in Florida had a LOT to do with this re-signing. A Canadian citizen is only taxed at a 15% rate, for signing bonuses, as opposed to 39% if he were an American.

In each year of his contract, all but 1 Million is paid on July 1st as a signing bonus, and throw in the fact that there is no personal income tax in Florida and the sales tax rate is 6%.

I'm pretty sure there were reports in the Media about year or so ago, about his parents moving to Tampa ...... and that was a clear sign that he was most likely to re-sign with Tampa.

But the Tax laws in Florida had a LOT to do with this re-signing. A Canadian citizen is only taxed at a 15% rate, for signing bonuses, as opposed to 39% if he were an American.

In each year of his contract, all but 1 Million is paid on July 1st as a signing bonus, and throw in the fact that there is no personal income tax in Florida and the sales tax rate is 6%.
- D0PPELGANGER

Residency, not citizenship.

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Are the Leafs looking achieve another first overall pick next year.

Are the Leafs looking achieve another first overall pick next year.
- spatso

Probably not, why do you ask?

Probably not, why do you ask?
- Feeling Glucky?

At this point, this is a much weaker Leaf roster compared to the Leafs at this time last year. Clearly, they have opted for the long term, which I think is wise. But, next year, looks like it is going to get ugly very early into the season.

At this point, this is a much weaker Leaf roster compared to the Leafs at this time last year. Clearly, they have opted for the long term, which I think is wise. But, next year, looks like it is going to get ugly very early into the season.
- spatso

Shanahan's plan blew up in his face once Stamkos re-signed with the Lightning.

Shanahan's plan blew up in his face once Stamkos re-signed with the Lightning.
- D0PPELGANGER

Except that isn't/wasn't the plan..... He said he'd adjust the plan if stamkos was available.


The hockeybuzz mantra: create your own reality to make yourself feel better

At this point, this is a much weaker Leaf roster compared to the Leafs at this time last year. Clearly, they have opted for the long term, which I think is wise. But, next year, looks like it is going to get ugly very early into the season.
- spatso

To me it looks much better, given the influx of high skilled forwards we're going to see, rather than some of the low-skill stopgaps we saw last season.

At this point, this is a much weaker Leaf roster compared to the Leafs at this time last year. Clearly, they have opted for the long term, which I think is wise. But, next year, looks like it is going to get ugly very early into the season.
- spatso

We'll see. Better goaltender and more speed and skill than at the start of the year last year. And the players that have been here for a year better understand the system being implemented.

How/where are they weaker?

Except that isn't/wasn't the plan..... He said he'd adjust the plan if stamkos was available.


The hockeybuzz mantra: create your own reality to make yourself feel better
- burn

They pushed hard to convince him to play in his home town. Wined and dined him with the Mayor and the CEO of Canadian Tire, in toronto earlier this week.

So YES he was part of the plan .............. it has been well rumoured for almost a year ......... but in the end the leaf ownership cheaped out and did not pony up enough cash.

We'll see. Better goaltender and more speed and skill than at the start of the year last year. And the players that have been here for a year better understand the system being implemented.

How/where are they weaker?
- burn

No D. nobody who can clear the puck from their own zone except for Reilly

We'll see. Better goaltender and more speed and skill than at the start of the year last year. And the players that have been here for a year better understand the system being implemented.

How/where are they weaker?
- burn

No D. nobody who can clear the puck from their own zone except for Reilly

They pushed hard to convince him to play in his home town. Wined and dined him with the Mayor and the CEO of Canadian Tire, in toronto earlier this week.

So YES he was part of the plan .............. it has been well rumoured for almost a year ......... but in the end the leaf ownership cheaped out and did not pony up enough cash.
- D0PPELGANGER

They didn't offer up enough cash to a guy that wasn't available to be offered any cash. You rally are an imbecile aren't you.

No D. nobody who can clear the puck from their own zone except for Reilly
- spatso

Gardiner?

Zietzev?

Carrick?

Shanahan's plan blew up in his face once Stamkos re-signed with the Lightning.
- D0PPELGANGER

Settle down. Nothing of the sort has happened. Shanahan has this team set up for a brighter future.