So, now that Cowen has taken Leafs to arbitration I was wonderng how that deal was working out for you?
- spatso

Great! We got Mattews. And we even found a more dysfunctional team than us to take Phaneuf. I know eh, I can't believe it either! They even gave us a prospect and a 2nd rounder.

So now that the Sens missed the playoffs, I was wondering how that deal was working out for you?

Great! We got Mattews. And we even found a more dysfunctional team than us to take Phaneuf. I know eh, I can't believe it either! They even gave us a prospect and a 2nd rounder.

So now that the Sens missed the playoffs, I was wondering how that deal was working out for you?
- systemtool

Well as you know, I believe the Leafs got the draft pick bet suited to their own profile. Soon, we can begin to talk about the profiles of this year' rookie prospects and the leading candidates for the Calder.

So, now that Cowen has taken Leafs to arbitration I was wonderng how that deal was working out for you?
- spatso

Hes gone eitherway, so who cares

Hes gone eitherway, so who cares
- burn

Spatso

Well as you know, I believe the Leafs got the draft pick bet suited to their own profile. Soon, we can begin to talk about the profiles of this year' rookie prospects and the leading candidates for the Calder.
- spatso

Yup. Needed a center and they got it. And by the majority of scouts, gm , rankings and such accounts, the best player with the highest potential too. Win win. Doesn't matter who wins the Calder. What matters is how their overall careers go and the impacts they have on their team.

For example, Skinner winning the Calder doesn't make him better than Hall or Seguin.

Fun fact. Toews. Crosby. Tavares. Stamkos. None won the calder. Neither did Karlsson

Does mentioning the fact the Sens were the worst team when it came to goals against make it correct? Or the fact he's 35 and declining line all normal athlet's do at that age make it correct? Got anything that proves it incorrect?
- systemtool

Anderson is a decent goalie. Middle of the pack, even better than that. He's just left out to dry over, and over, and over. And the funny part is, when a certain player is not on the ice, they're among the better teams in the league in terms of giving up goals. When that player is on the ice, they're by far the worst. Every. Single. year.

I'm pretty reluctant to blame Anderson on that.

So, now that Cowen has taken Leafs to arbitration I was wonderng how that deal was working out for you?
- spatso

I'm not really familiar with the ins and outs of what's happening with Jared Cowen. But can't they still buy him out? as planned?

And if he goes to arbitration, can't tehy walk away from a settlement?

To be honest, I was always of the opinion that they shouldn't buy him out, and just let him rot, anyway. If they do that, he's off the books at the end of this year, end of story.

I'm not really familiar with the ins and outs of what's happening with Jared Cowen. But can't they still buy him out? as planned?

And if he goes to arbitration, can't tehy walk away from a settlement?

To be honest, I was always of the opinion that they shouldn't buy him out, and just let him rot, anyway. If they do that, he's off the books at the end of this year, end of story.
- prock

He’s taking the buyout to arbitration – says he is injured and can’t be bought out.

I’d prefer the buyout. But if not, it won’t change much; and yeah the upside is no caphit next year.

Well as you know, I believe the Leafs got the draft pick bet suited to their own profile. Soon, we can begin to talk about the profiles of this year' rookie prospects and the leading candidates for the Calder.
- spatso

On a scale of 1-10 of stupidity – was it a 9 or 10 out of 10 for you to question why the leafs didn’t sign Mathews earlier in the month?

I profile you as a 10.

Anderson is a decent goalie. Middle of the pack, even better than that. He's just left out to dry over, and over, and over. And the funny part is, when a certain player is not on the ice, they're among the better teams in the league in terms of giving up goals. When that player is on the ice, they're by far the worst. Every. Single. year.

I'm pretty reluctant to blame Anderson on that.
- prock

He's an average goalie. Perhaps better than average. In his prime. He's about to turn 35. I'd move on. Or at least get a better back up than Hammond. The blame isn't on Anderson solely but he's part of the problem at this stage in his career

He's an average goalie. Perhaps better than average. In his prime. He's about to turn 35. I'd move on. Or at least get a better back up than Hammond. The blame isn't on Anderson solely but he's part of the problem at this stage in his career
- systemtool

oh, for sure, I wouldn't argue that. If the Sens started building towards a cup today, it would probably be 5 to 7 years before they can contend. He will be retired by then.

So, now that Cowen has taken Leafs to arbitration I was wonderng how that deal was working out for you?
- spatso

We still have a quote from a Senators prospect saying they never did any skill drills.


So pretty fantastically.

He’s taking the buyout to arbitration – says he is injured and can’t be bought out.

I’d prefer the buyout. But if not, it won’t change much; and yeah the upside is no caphit next year.
- Tumbleweed

honestly, at this point I don;t know if the Leafs even fight it.

Would have been important if they'd signed Stamkos and needed the negative cap hit from the buyout, but now that they've got space next season, may as well absorb the whole cap hit, rather than deffer it.

honestly, at this point I don;t know if the Leafs even fight it.

Would have been important if they'd signed Stamkos and needed the negative cap hit from the buyout, but now that they've got space next season, may as well absorb the whole cap hit, rather than deffer it.
- Feeling Glucky?

Worst case to me with no buyout is we end up with some bonus overage penalties > cowen’s buyout caphit for next year.

I’m not sweating it either way.

Worst case to me with no buyout is we end up with some bonus overage penalties > cowen’s buyout caphit for next year.

I’m not sweating it either way.
- Tumbleweed

Yup it's not like we're Ottawa and we need to count our pennies to aquire 30 year olds.

Yup it's not like we're Ottawa and we need to count our pennies to aquire 30 year olds.
- systemtool

crunk

Worst rat's nest in the history of fishing. Tangled with another line just as I was starting my cast. Must have done 30 tangled revolutions. Fishing not good this morning, totally skunked. We caught 10 last time out.

Worst rat's nest in the history of fishing. Tangled with another line just as I was starting my cast. Must have done 30 tangled revolutions. Fishing not good this morning, totally skunked. We caught 10 last time out.
- spatso

While the fish may not be impressed I'm sure you'll find plenty to take your bait here.

While the fish may not be impressed I'm sure you'll find plenty to take your bait here.
- daeth

...crickets...

He's an average goalie. Perhaps better than average. In his prime. He's about to turn 35. I'd move on. Or at least get a better back up than Hammond. The blame isn't on Anderson solely but he's part of the problem at this stage in his career
- systemtool

He was above average on a below average team that thought they were contenders so they kept. Him over bishop and Lehrer...

He was above average on a below average team that thought they were contenders so they kept. Him over bishop and Lehrer...
- muffin_man

honestly, at this point, their "retool" type youth movement of the past few years isn't good enough to get them anywhere anyway. With or without Bishop. Eventually, they need to trade off what they can and try again.

This thread is still going eh? Pretty obvious answer.
So sad Karlsson's prime is being absolutely wasted.

This thread is still going eh? Pretty obvious answer.
So sad Karlsson's prime is being absolutely wasted.
- RogerRoeper

Same with Kadri

This thread is still going eh? Pretty obvious answer.
So sad Karlsson's prime is being absolutely wasted.
- RogerRoeper

Why Roger?

Why not Stanley?

Wow, the leafs sign Frank Corrado, Trevor Moore and Peter Holland .......... clearly they're taking a run at the playoffs this season