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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 29 @ 7:36 AM ET
How is he not deserving to be there?


- burn


how is he deserving to be there?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jul 29 @ 7:40 AM ET
how is he deserving to be there?
- Pecafan Fan




Last years 1 and 2nd overall were there?

He playing worlds and was far and away the best player in his team and one of the best in the tournament

How is he not deserving?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 29 @ 7:43 AM ET
Last years 1 and 2nd overall were there?

He playing worlds and was far and away the best player in his team and one of the best in the tournament

How is he not deserving?
- burn


You mean, the guys with NHL experience?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jul 29 @ 7:46 AM ET
You mean, the guys with NHL experience?
- Pecafan Fan



So?


Ignore everything else?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 29 @ 7:47 AM ET
So?


Ignore everything else?
- burn


He didn't earn anything. He was just given spot.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 29 @ 7:51 AM ET
"He was outstanding in a tournament where Cam Talbot was a top goalie"



*sigh*
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jul 29 @ 7:57 AM ET
He didn't earn anything. He was just given spot.
- Pecafan Fan



That's a nice spin. I guess if you got noting try and switch it up....
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 29 @ 8:09 AM ET
how is he deserving to be there?
- Pecafan Fan



Honestly ...who really (frank)ing cares

Well besides the clowns like spatso and team 1200 summer fill ins who need to fill air time
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 29 @ 8:11 AM ET
He didn't earn anything. He was just given spot.
- Pecafan Fan



what did he need to do to have earned a spot?
I saw you mentioned play in the NHL...well thats hard for him to have done by now.

So what did he need to do..to have earned a spot?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 29 @ 8:14 AM ET
what did he need to do to have earned a spot?
I saw you mentioned play in the NHL...well thats hard for him to have done by now.

So what did he need to do..to have earned a spot?
- senstroll


Funny how Phil Kessel, who won a cup, and let's be honest, he's a huge part of this run at the cup, isn't even there... but Auston Matthews is.





Oh, wait, the tournament is in Toronto?.... Carry on!
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 29 @ 8:15 AM ET
Don't get me wrong.

I know that marketing this "World Cup" (lol) is important.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jul 29 @ 8:24 AM ET
Funny how Phil Kessel, who won a cup, and let's be honest, he's a huge part of this run at the cup, isn't even there... but Auston Matthews is.





Oh, wait, the tournament is in Toronto?.... Carry on!
- Pecafan Fan
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jul 29 @ 8:25 AM ET
what did he need to do to have earned a spot?
I saw you mentioned play in the NHL...well thats hard for him to have done by now.

So what did he need to do..to have earned a spot?
- senstroll

Who's been left off the young star team to make room for Matthews, that really deserved to be there over him?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 29 @ 8:26 AM ET
Funny how Phil Kessel, who won a cup, and let's be honest, he's a huge part of this run at the cup, isn't even there... but Auston Matthews is.





Oh, wait, the tournament is in Toronto?.... Carry on!
- Pecafan Fan


Of course thats dumb..Kessel probably would have been added to replace someone who got injured (forget who) ..but his hand was (frank)ed up

but back to the question you didnt answer.. what would AM need to do? or is he just not deserving at all because no NHL experience?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 29 @ 8:41 AM ET
Of course thats dumb..Kessel probably would have been added to replace someone who got injured (forget who) ..but his hand was (frank)ed up

but back to the question you didnt answer.. what would AM need to do? or is he just not deserving at all because no NHL experience?
- senstroll


He didn't prove anything so far. That is all.

I don't care that he's there, but to pretend he deserves to be there is just BS.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 29 @ 8:51 AM ET
He didn't prove anything so far. That is all.

I don't care that he's there, but to pretend he deserves to be there is just BS.
- Pecafan Fan


I went to the google machine to see what the internet had to say about AM and the first link that comes up

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...mericas-world-cup-roster/
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 29 @ 8:53 AM ET
I went to the google machine to see what the internet had to say about AM and the first link that comes up

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...mericas-world-cup-roster/
- senstroll


Yeah, the first link saying he deserves it, is a Toronto media.

Shocking!

AND SURPRISING!!!!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jul 29 @ 8:59 AM ET
Funny how Phil Kessel, who won a cup, and let's be honest, he's a huge part of this run at the cup, isn't even there... but Auston Matthews is.





Oh, wait, the tournament is in Toronto?.... Carry on!
- Pecafan Fan


Kessel definitely should be there, but he's not healthy. He just had wrist surgery
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jul 29 @ 9:03 AM ET
He didn't prove anything so far. That is all.

I don't care that he's there, but to pretend he deserves to be there is just BS.
- Pecafan Fan



The fact he played professional hockey and was very good at doing so means nothing? Him playing in the worlds (against a lot of nhlers ) and doing well there to is meaningless as well.

He was picked by those that are running the team (who have no link to the leafs what's so ever) so that means he deserves to be there. Pretending he doesn't belong is jus as much BS(if not more so)
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 29 @ 9:04 AM ET
Yeah, the first link saying he deserves it, is a Toronto media.

Shocking!

AND SURPRISING!!!!
- Pecafan Fan



isnt he from Edmonton and reports on Edmonton stuff?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Jul 29 @ 9:17 AM ET
Listening to the "The Drive" on TSN 1200 on way home from work and they were talking about the promotion like atmosphere of the upcoming World Cup and the decision to put Toronto draft pick Auston Matthew on the team as pure marketing, based on Toronto being the venue.

Two points they seemed to make. Matthews was entirely undeserving of the nomination (other than for the fact the event is being held in Toronto). And, the Leafs are once again prematurely hyping expectations around a kid. If he is less than a star he will be run out of town.
- spatso


Baaaaaa
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 29 @ 9:37 AM ET
The WCOH is purely a money making, marketing vehicle for the NHL and the NHLPA, so yes who the fu*k cares who is on whichever team ................ besides, it will also soften the blow when the NHL decides not to go to the winter Olympics.
- D0PPELGANGER



I'd rather have them in the Olympics ...but agree on the rest...I probably will only watch if im sitting on my ass doing nothing else or Matthews is playing.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jul 29 @ 9:43 AM ET
I'd rather have them in the Olympics ...but agree on the rest...I probably will only watch if im sitting on my ass doing nothing else or Matthews is playing.
- senstroll



So you kinda agree that he's being used as a Marketing tool to some extent.
Don't blame you (as a leaf fan) as you've probably not seen him play too much, and would be interested to see how he fares vs NHL level competition.

Kinda makes the point being made by Pecafan Fan.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 29 @ 10:26 AM ET
So you kinda agree that he's being used as a Marketing tool to some extent.
Don't blame you (as a leaf fan) as you've probably not seen him play too much, and would be interested to see how he fares vs NHL level competition.

Kinda makes the point being made by Pecafan Fan.
- D0PPELGANGER


Well the point he was trying to make was that he doesn't deserve to be there.

Its important to remember he was named to the team before the Leafs actually drafted him
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jul 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
So you kinda agree that he's being used as a Marketing tool to some extent.
Don't blame you (as a leaf fan) as you've probably not seen him play too much, and would be interested to see how he fares vs NHL level competition.

Kinda makes the point being made by Pecafan Fan.
- D0PPELGANGER

It's a secondary benefit. But it doesn't matter who was picking first, Matthews, as the first overall pick, would have been there.

It's the young stars team. Matthews is the youngest and among the starriest, as the most recent 1st overall pick.
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