To be fair.. the Sens are pretty crappy..and the leafs are good
- senstroll

So the leafs will finish higher in the Divisional Standing this season?

So you're saying that both Mitch Marner (5.11 and 164 lbs) and Francis Perron ( 6.00 and 163 lbs) will never "play a game in the NHL"?





- D0PPELGANGER

so, you're saying that Mitch Marner qualified as an overage player this year?

So the leafs will finish higher in the Divisional Standing this season?
- D0PPELGANGER

who the (frank) knows... but I was talking about their AHL teams which he was responding to

so, you're saying that Mitch Marner qualified as an overage player this year?
- prock

Yeah Marner is almost one year younger ....... just pointing out that they're almost exactly the same weight and height, at this point and time. If he does not play for the leafs then I guess he's bound to be an overage player then, eh?

This thread is still going?

Yeah Marner is almost one year younger ....... just pointing out that they're almost exactly the same weight and height, at this point and time. If he does not play for the leafs then I guess he's bound to be an overage player then, eh?
- D0PPELGANGER

d0pps, c'mon.

be a good little d0pps

don't be like spatso

be a good little d0pps

don't be like spatso
- AustonPowers

They'll never stop the nonSENSe

Yeah Marner is almost one year younger ....... just pointing out that they're almost exactly the same weight and height, at this point and time. If he does not play for the leafs then I guess he's bound to be an overage player then, eh?
- D0PPELGANGER

More than a year younger, not almost. The list of undersized players that put up large numbers as a 19/20 year old is long. You have to be a top talent to overcome that and make it a non-issue. Marner put up bigger numbers as a 17 year old than Perron put up as a 19/20 year old.

Trying to put them in the same sentence is silly. Perron is nowhere near the prospect Marner is. Marner looks like one of those that has the top talent to overcome size, Perrron, very unlikely.He'll probably never make it past the AHL. he's more likely in the Justin Azevedo category than the Pat Kane one.

More than a year younger, not almost. The list of undersized players that put up large numbers as a 19/20 year old is long. You have to be a top talent to overcome that and make it a non-issue. Marner put up bigger numbers as a 17 year old than Perron put up as a 19/20 year old.

Trying to put them in the same sentence is silly. Perron is nowhere near the prospect Marner is. Marner looks like one of those that has the top talent to overcome size, Perrron, very unlikely.He'll probably never make it past the AHL. he's more likely in the Justin Azevedo category than the Pat Kane one.
- prock

So Marner is the next Kane?

So Marner is the next Kane?
- D0PPELGANGER

Maybe. Probably not. But Kane is a better comparable to Marner than Azevedo. Azevedo is a better comparison for Francis Perron than Kane.

Most players never reach their FULL potential. I'd rather have the player with the potential to be Kane than Justin Azevedo.

Which is worse? The heartbreak or the ass pain
- systemtool

I am guessing it is the heartbreak because he misses the ass pain.

Maybe. Probably not. But Kane is a better comparable to Marner than Azevedo. Azevedo is a better comparison for Francis Perron than Kane.

Most players never reach their FULL potential. I'd rather have the player with the potential to be Kane than Justin Azevedo.
- prock

Francis Perron was a seventh round pick of the Senators, who just happens to have won the Michel Briere Trophy as QMJHL MVP and the Guy Lafleur Trophy as the post-season MVP, becoming only the eighth player in league history and first since Jonathan Drouin to pick up both major awards in the same season.

Perhaps you think that Justin Azevedo won some similar awards, and thereby your use of him as a comparison?

Francis Perron was a seventh round pick of the Senators, who just happens to have won the Michel Briere Trophy as QMJHL MVP and the Guy Lafleur Trophy as the post-season MVP, becoming only the eighth player in league history and first since Jonathan Drouin to pick up both major awards in the same season.

Perhaps you think that Justin Azevedo won some similar awards, and thereby your use of him as a comparison?
- D0PPELGANGER

Yep. In his final season in the OHL, Justin Azevedo, a 6th round pick, the season he turned 20 in (like Perron this year), his only season among the top 20 in OHL/QMJHL scoring (like Perron), Azevedo put up 124 points (more than Perron, in a better league), and won the OHL MVP award (Red Tilson), lthe Ed Chenowyth for Mem Cup top scorer, CHL player of the year, CHL top scorer award.

I guess you might say that Francis Perron is basically Justin Azevedo-lite.

So Marner is the next Kane?
- D0PPELGANGER

You said it.

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1064620

Sens

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1064620

Sens
- senstroll

The Score

The Score

- top shelf 15

I think anyone with a decent knowledge of the NHL and whats happened in the past several years would make a fairly similar list.

Big Shift in things for the Leafs.. its been common to see them near the Bottom of the standings while also showing up at the bottom of these types of lists. Now they have bottomed out in terms of the standings...but everything else important..which eventually leads to success is falling in place.

just to re-cap the lists

Farm systems
29. Ottawa Senators
1. Toronto Maple Leafs

Head coaches
28. Ottawa Senators
5. Toronto Maple Leafs

General managers
23. Ottawa Senators
11. Toronto Maple Leafs

Owners
29. Ottawa Senators
3. Toronto Maple Leafs

3 years ago the Leafs would have been easily 30th in 3 of them..now the sens are trending that way

So Marner is the next Kane?
- D0PPELGANGER

He looked very ordinary against the very quick Swedes today.

I think anyone with a decent knowledge of the NHL and whats happened in the past several years would make a fairly similar list.

Big Shift in things for the Leafs.. its been common to see them near the Bottom of the standings while also showing up at the bottom of these types of lists. Now they have bottomed out in terms of the standings...but everything else important..which eventually leads to success is falling in place.

just to re-cap the lists

Farm systems
29. Ottawa Senators
1. Toronto Maple Leafs

Head coaches
28. Ottawa Senators
5. Toronto Maple Leafs

General managers
23. Ottawa Senators
11. Toronto Maple Leafs

Owners
29. Ottawa Senators
3. Toronto Maple Leafs

3 years ago the Leafs would have been easily 30th in 3 of them..now the sens are trending that way
- senstroll

Oh for God's sake, grow up. It is summer and these are loser lists. It is all about scoreboard and last I looked Leafs were a last place team. These are merely distractions to keep readers interested.

Oh for God's sake, grow up. It is summer and these are loser lists. It is all about scoreboard and last I looked Leafs were a last place team. These are merely distractions to keep readers interested.
- spatso

Amazing how any list with Ottawa where they belong is a loser list

Amazing how any list with Ottawa where they belong is a loser list
- Feeling Glucky?

Winners and losers are determined by the scoreboard. Leaf summer talk is legendary and entertaining. But, it is just talk. Expectations get raised but everyone knows once the puck drops it is time to talk about what happened on the ice.

So, the first puck has been dropped. Marner is competing but not very well. He has had trouble especially yesterday with the speedy Finns. Most of the Finns are two years younger than Marner. He did not show much on the scoreboard.

Winners and losers are determined by the scoreboard. Leaf summer talk is legendary and entertaining. But, it is just talk. Expectations get raised but everyone knows once the puck drops it is time to talk about what happened on the ice.

So, the first puck has been dropped. Marner is competing but not very well. He has had trouble especially yesterday with the speedy Finns. Most of the Finns are two years younger than Marner. He did not show much on the scoreboard.
- spatso

Ah yes, 2 years of historic level production outweighed by a single exhibition game I'm certain you didn't watch.



Since, you know...


...


He didn't play.

Ah yes, 2 years of historic level production outweighed by a single exhibition game in certain you didn't watch.



Since, you know...


...


He didn't play.
- Feeling Glucky?

Oh my

Winners and losers are determined by the scoreboard. Leaf summer talk is legendary and entertaining. But, it is just talk. Expectations get raised but everyone knows once the puck drops it is time to talk about what happened on the ice.

So, the first puck has been dropped. Marner is competing but not very well. He has had trouble especially yesterday with the speedy Finns. Most of the Finns are two years younger than Marner. He did not show much on the scoreboard.
- spatso

It's pretty clear you paid close attention to the game against fins yesterday.


Since, you know they didn't play that team yesterday.... And Marner didn't play the game against the fins.