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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Aug 16 @ 8:58 AM ET
Did not think the poster I was responding to, could explain it ............ and neither can you.

leafs were the worst team in the NHL last season, and it's going to be a long long road back to even contending for a wildcard spot ........ perhaps 5 more years , and then another few seasons before they can even think about winning a first round series, and by that time they'll be in Cap problems and management will have to start another re-build .......... the typical leaf cycle that we've all seen over the past two decades.
- D0PPELGANGER
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Aug 16 @ 9:00 AM ET
who (frank)ing knows
- senstroll


So your fence sitting answer means you know that the leafs will finish well behind the Senators, in the standings, again this coming season ............ you just can't bring your self to actually articulate the truth, in writing.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Aug 16 @ 9:02 AM ET

- burn

And neither can you ............. well, I'm not really surprised.


It must be really hard to know your team sucked the most last season, will probably suck for the next 3 to 5 seasons, before they even get a sniff at contending for a WC position ............ knowing very well that they'll get blown out if they actually get it.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Aug 16 @ 9:35 AM ET
And neither can you ............. well, I'm not really surprised.


It must be really hard to know your team sucked the most last season, will probably suck for the next 3 to 5 seasons, before they even get a sniff at contending for a WC position ............ knowing very well that they'll get blown out if they actually get it.
- D0PPELGANGER



I wish I had a below average team that missed the playoffs and an owner who can't/won't spend a dime on the team so that I can pretend I'm happy about the future and direction of the team.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Aug 16 @ 11:39 AM ET
Who?


At least sens fans are being reasonable though eh? It's not like you guys are saying you're contenders and better than everyone in the division but TB.
- burn
Nobody said anything about being a contender,but in reality i see us having just as good a roster as anyone in the division not named TB .I have TB,WASH and Pitt as the contenders in the east.After that its up for grabs
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Aug 16 @ 12:43 PM ET
So your fence sitting answer means you know that the leafs will finish well behind the Senators, in the standings, again this coming season ............ you just can't bring your self to actually articulate the truth, in writing.
- D0PPELGANGER



no..if I actually believed that I would say it..The Sabers who were dog poop 2 years ago finished 4 points behind the sens last season
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Aug 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
no..if I actually believed that I would say it..The Sabers who were dog poop 2 years ago finished 4 points behind the sens last season
- senstroll




Sabers???


senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Aug 16 @ 1:32 PM ET
Sabers???

- D0PPELGANGER



yes
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Aug 16 @ 1:43 PM ET
yes
- senstroll



Really? Sabers........... do they ever play against the Canadians?
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Aug 16 @ 2:07 PM ET
no..if I actually believed that I would say it..The Sabers who were dog poop 2 years ago finished 4 points behind the sens last season
- senstroll
Meh,and we had 99 points the year before.Like i said the roster is good enough to be a playoff team ,how far we go ....well thats a conversation we should have months from now.Just far too many variables ,to say for certain one way or another
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Aug 16 @ 2:17 PM ET
Nobody said anything about being a contender,but in reality i see us having just as good a roster as anyone in the division not named TB .I have TB,WASH and Pitt as the contenders in the east.After that its up for grabs
- top shelf 15



Well, finishing 2nd in div would be contending.... And plenty have said they think they're contenders.


How on earth do you think the sens are better than the panthers who won their division and got better In the offseason? The sens didn't improve but magically leapfrog the division leader who made changes to improve?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Aug 16 @ 2:18 PM ET
Really? Sabers........... do they ever play against the Canadians?
- D0PPELGANGER



yes D0PPLEGANGER
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Aug 16 @ 2:29 PM ET
Well, finishing 2nd in div would be contending.... And plenty have said they think they're contenders.


How on earth do you think the sens are better than the panthers who won their division and got better In the offseason? The sens didn't improve but magically leapfrog the division leader who made changes to improve?
- burn
How did the Pens win the cup after barely scraping in the year before ???2nd in the division means absolutely nothing.FLD got beat by the NYI ,does this mean they are now a contender??
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013
Aug 16 @ 3:18 PM ET

sup
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007
Aug 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
Leafs, easily.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Aug 16 @ 10:03 PM ET
Did not think the poster I was responding to, could explain it ............ and neither can you.

leafs were the worst team in the NHL last season, and it's going to be a long long road back to even contending for a wildcard spot ........ perhaps 5 more years , and then another few seasons before they can even think about winning a first round series, and by that time they'll be in Cap problems and management will have to start another re-build .......... the typical leaf cycle that we've all seen over the past two decades.
- D0PPELGANGER

Leafs have one of the best prospect pools in the league and a very highly regarded front office.


Sens have a poop roster, poop prospects, an cheap owner and pretty questionable management.


It's been explained many times. Just because you ignore it, doesn't mean it goes away.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Aug 16 @ 10:39 PM ET
Did not think the poster I was responding to, could explain it ............ and neither can you.

leafs were the worst team in the NHL last season, and it's going to be a long long road back to even contending for a wildcard spot ........ perhaps 5 more years , and then another few seasons before they can even think about winning a first round series, and by that time they'll be in Cap problems and management will have to start another re-build .......... the typical leaf cycle that we've all seen over the past two decades.
- D0PPELGANGER




Wtf
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Aug 16 @ 10:40 PM ET
Leafs have one of the best prospect pools in the league and a very highly regarded front office.


Sens have a poop roster, poop prospects, an cheap owner and pretty questionable management.


It's been explained many times. Just because you ignore it, doesn't mean it goes away.
- Feeling Glucky?


Oh it's just the same Leaf cycle of the last 2 decades. All that intentional tanking. All the first overall picks. All the Marner and Nylander type prospects they've had in the past. You know. The usual.

It's going to be 8 years until they can win a playoff round!
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011
Aug 16 @ 11:21 PM ET
Did not think the poster I was responding to, could explain it ............ and neither can you.

leafs were the worst team in the NHL last season, and it's going to be a long long road back to even contending for a wildcard spot ........ perhaps 5 more years , and then another few seasons before they can even think about winning a first round series, and by that time they'll be in Cap problems and management will have to start another re-build .......... the typical leaf cycle that we've all seen over the past two decades.
- D0PPELGANGER




WTF is this?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Aug 16 @ 11:23 PM ET


WTF is this?
- walshyleafsfan


Wishful thinking of a Sen fan
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Aug 16 @ 11:26 PM ET
How did the Pens win the cup after barely scraping in the year before ???2nd in the division means absolutely nothing.FLD got beat by the NYI ,does this mean they are now a contender??
- top shelf 15


Agreed. Turris and brassard = malkin and crosby
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Aug 16 @ 11:42 PM ET
Oh it's just the same Leaf cycle of the last 2 decades. All that intentional tanking. All the first overall picks. All the Marner and Nylander type prospects they've had in the past. You know. The usual.

It's going to be 8 years until they can win a playoff round!
- systemtool
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Aug 17 @ 11:25 AM ET
Wishful thinking of a Sen fan
- systemtool


and a healthy dose of total departure from reality
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Aug 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
and a healthy dose of total departure from reality
- Aetherial



Only leaf fans do that, according to spatso..... Sens fans realistic in belief that they are better than divison winner last year who improved, while they themselves haven't improved.

top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008
Aug 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
Agreed. Turris and brassard = malkin and crosby
- Tumbleweed
No where did i say that.We cant touch their high end stuff up front ,but we should better their secondary stuff easily .Kinda like the Rangers ,good top 9 that can score at a top 10 pace by committee ,our ace is EK
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