None. I don't go to sporting events. Not my thing.
- systemtool

You must admit, it's ironic, in one breath, these fools go on about "it's all suits at the ACC", and then "look at what you pay for tickets".

Do you really think they're paying for those tickets? Nope. They're provided by companies, or written off by many attending.

And when you think about it, if a company writes off a $400 ticket, it lowers their corporate profit by that $400 (plus beer!), and hence, the taxes that company pays. Which, in the end, lowers the tax coffers, and the cost is spread across the population of Canada.

So hey Dopps, you loser, you're paying for me to go to Leaf games and drink beer. Hahahahaahahah.

And then, the Leaf fans who can’t afford tickets at the game, see some nice cheap available tickets in Ottawa, and go on road trips.

End result – Sens fans end up paying for the wealthy Leaf fans to go to games and drink beer, and yet they still owe their existence to the Leafs, and the fans who don’t pay the high prices, as if they didn’t go, that sad sack franchise would probably fold.

You must admit, it's ironic, in one breath, these fools go on about "it's all suits at the ACC", and then "look at what you pay for tickets".

Do you really think they're paying for those tickets? Nope. They're provided by companies, or written off by many attending.

And when you think about it, if a company writes off a $400 ticket, it lowers their corporate profit by that $400 (plus beer!), and hence, the taxes that company pays. Which, in the end, lowers the tax coffers, and the cost is spread across the population of Canada.

So hey Dopps, you loser, you're paying for me to go to Leaf games and drink beer. Hahahahaahahah.

And then, the Leaf fans who can’t afford tickets at the game, see some nice cheap available tickets in Ottawa, and go on road trips.

End result – Sens fans end up paying for the wealthy Leaf fans to go to games and drink beer, and yet they still owe their existence to the Leafs, and the fans who don’t pay the high prices, as if they didn’t go, that sad sack franchise would probably fold.
- prock

This doesn't make any sense.


Dopps doesn't have a job.

You must admit, it's ironic, in one breath, these fools go on about "it's all suits at the ACC", and then "look at what you pay for tickets".

Do you really think they're paying for those tickets? Nope. They're provided by companies, or written off by many attending.

And when you think about it, if a company writes off a $400 ticket, it lowers their corporate profit by that $400 (plus beer!), and hence, the taxes that company pays. Which, in the end, lowers the tax coffers, and the cost is spread across the population of Canada.

So hey Dopps, you loser, you're paying for me to go to Leaf games and drink beer. Hahahahaahahah.

And then, the Leaf fans who can’t afford tickets at the game, see some nice cheap available tickets in Ottawa, and go on road trips.

End result – Sens fans end up paying for the wealthy Leaf fans to go to games and drink beer, and yet they still owe their existence to the Leafs, and the fans who don’t pay the high prices, as if they didn’t go, that sad sack franchise would probably fold.
- prock

i don't know why you do the dumber than a fence post routine. We all know that you know better

Canadian Census Metropolitan Areas ranked by median family income[edit]

Rank Metropolitan Area Population MedianFamily Income

1 Ottawa CMA 1,236,324 $94,700
2 Calgary CMA 1,214,839 $89,490
3 Edmonton CMA 1,159,869 $87,930
4 Regina CMA 210,556 $84,890
5 Oshawa 149,607 $82,270
6 Saskatoon CMA 260,600 $80,570
7 St John's, NL CMA 196,966 $78,210
8 Victoria, BC CMA 344,630 $77,820
9 Kingston, ON CMA 159,561 $77,140
10 Kitchener-Cambridge-Waterloo CMA 477,160 $77,040
11 Hamilton CMA 721,053 $76,730
12 Greater Sudbury CMA 160,770 $76,710
13 Halifax CMA 390,096 $76,500
14 Quebec, QC CMA 765,706 $76,450
15 Thunder Bay CMA 121,596 $75,640
16 Winnipeg CMA 730,018 $72,050
17 London, ON CMA 474,786 $71,840
18 Windsor, ON CMA 319,246 $69,480
19 Saguenay, QC CMA 157,790 $69,340
20 Saint John, NB CMA 127,761 $69,100
21 Toronto CMA 5,583,064 $68,110
22 Vancouver CMA 2,313,328 $67,090
23 Montreal CMA 3,824,221 $67,010
24 St. Catharines–Niagara CMA 392,184 $65,900
25 Trois-Rivières, QC CMA 151,773 $63,510
26 Sherbrooke, QC CMA 201,890 $63,360
27 Abbotsford-Mission, BC CMA 170,191 $62,320

i don't know why you do the dumber than a fence post routine. We all know that you know better

Canadian Census Metropolitan Areas ranked by median family income
- spatso[edit]

Rank Metropolitan Area Population MedianFamily Income

1 Ottawa CMA 1,236,324 $94,700
2 Calgary CMA 1,214,839 $89,490
3 Edmonton CMA 1,159,869 $87,930
4 Regina CMA 210,556 $84,890
5 Oshawa 149,607 $82,270
6 Saskatoon CMA 260,600 $80,570
7 St John's, NL CMA 196,966 $78,210
8 Victoria, BC CMA 344,630 $77,820
9 Kingston, ON CMA 159,561 $77,140
10 Kitchener-Cambridge-Waterloo CMA 477,160 $77,040
11 Hamilton CMA 721,053 $76,730
12 Greater Sudbury CMA 160,770 $76,710
13 Halifax CMA 390,096 $76,500
14 Quebec, QC CMA 765,706 $76,450
15 Thunder Bay CMA 121,596 $75,640
16 Winnipeg CMA 730,018 $72,050
17 London, ON CMA 474,786 $71,840
18 Windsor, ON CMA 319,246 $69,480
19 Saguenay, QC CMA 157,790 $69,340
20 Saint John, NB CMA 127,761 $69,100
21 Toronto CMA 5,583,064 $68,110
22 Vancouver CMA 2,313,328 $67,090
23 Montreal CMA 3,824,221 $67,010
24 St. Catharines–Niagara CMA 392,184 $65,900
25 Trois-Rivières, QC CMA 151,773 $63,510
26 Sherbrooke, QC CMA 201,890 $63,360
27 Abbotsford-Mission, BC CMA 170,191 $62,320

What relevance is this?

Unless you're trying to tell us that Ottawa citizens actually pay MORE than we do for Leaf fans to go to their games?

What relevance is this?

Unless you're trying to tell us that Ottawa citizens actually pay MORE than we do for Leaf fans to go to their games?
- prock

It was your reference to wealthy Leaf fans being subsidized by Ottawa fans that I thought was kind of distorted. This is not an issue of financial well being of the community. it is about demand based on population. The GTA/Ottawa population ratio is close to 5:1. All other factors are essentially trivial.

It was your reference to wealthy Leaf fans being subsidized by Ottawa fans that I thought was kind of distorted. This is not an issue of financial well being of the community. it is about demand based on population. The GTA/Ottawa population ratio is close to 5:1. All other factors are essentially trivial.
- spatso

And you're calling ME dumb as a post? The average salaries of the two cities is totally irrelevant to the "suits", a term that OTHER fan bases like to use, ATTENDING the game.

The comment was on the cost of the tickets, as everyone else loves to point out, for the "suits" to attend Leaf games, is very rarely paid for by the suits themselves. They're corporate tickets, and if you can't see that as tax writeoffs, are to an extent paid for by the entire tax paying population, you're the one that is dumb as a post.

Smarten up, chump. I'm smarter than you, so don't try that with me.

And you're calling ME dumb as a post? The average salaries of the two cities is totally irrelevant to the "suits", a term that OTHER fan bases like to use, ATTENDING the game.

The comment was on the cost of the tickets, as everyone else loves to point out, for the "suits" to attend Leaf games, is very rarely paid for by the suits themselves. They're corporate tickets, and if you can't see that as tax writeoffs, are to an extent paid for by the entire tax paying population, you're the one that is dumb as a post.

Smarten up, chump. I'm smarter than you, so don't try that with me.
- prock

It does not work that way. When a business buys a package of tickets for promotional purposes it is simply a business expense. So, for example, Yellow Pages has x number of tickets to give to loyal customers in Ottawa and Toronto. GTA Yellow Pages can probably cost justify giving out tickets at a 4:1 ratio over Ottawa Yellow Pages.

And you're calling ME dumb as a post? The average salaries of the two cities is totally irrelevant to the "suits", a term that OTHER fan bases like to use, ATTENDING the game.

The comment was on the cost of the tickets, as everyone else loves to point out, for the "suits" to attend Leaf games, is very rarely paid for by the suits themselves. They're corporate tickets, and if you can't see that as tax writeoffs, are to an extent paid for by the entire tax paying population, you're the one that is dumb as a post.

Smarten up, chump. I'm smarter than you, so don't try that with me.
- prock

Vintage Prock

It does not work that way. When a business buys a package of tickets for promotional purposes it is simply a business expense. So, for example, Yellow Pages has x number of tickets to give to loyal customers in Ottawa and Toronto. GTA Yellow Pages can probably cost justify giving out tickets at a 4:1 ratio over Ottawa Yellow Pages.
- spatso

It absolutely works that way. Since it seems you need one, let me give you a quick lesson – when bought by a business, they are expenses. Profit is revenue less expenses. Therefore, a ticket purchased by a company, is listed as an expense. That expense directly reduces the profit of that business. Corporations pay taxes on their profit. In Canada, it’s 25%. So, a $400 ticket(according to the other Sens idiot here) purchased by a company reduces the profits of that company by $400, vs not purchasing that ticket.

Vintage Prock
- golfingsince

Oh look who's back. How you doin Skippy? Still female doging about Corrado not being on the Olympic team?

Oh look who's back. How you doin Skippy? Still female doging about Corrado not being on the Olympic team?
- prock

i don't know why you do the dumber than a fence post routine. We all know that you know better

Canadian Census Metropolitan Areas ranked by median family income
- spatso[edit]

Rank Metropolitan Area Population MedianFamily Income

1 Ottawa CMA 1,236,324 $94,700
2 Calgary CMA 1,214,839 $89,490
3 Edmonton CMA 1,159,869 $87,930
4 Regina CMA 210,556 $84,890
5 Oshawa 149,607 $82,270
6 Saskatoon CMA 260,600 $80,570
7 St John's, NL CMA 196,966 $78,210
8 Victoria, BC CMA 344,630 $77,820
9 Kingston, ON CMA 159,561 $77,140
10 Kitchener-Cambridge-Waterloo CMA 477,160 $77,040
11 Hamilton CMA 721,053 $76,730
12 Greater Sudbury CMA 160,770 $76,710
13 Halifax CMA 390,096 $76,500
14 Quebec, QC CMA 765,706 $76,450
15 Thunder Bay CMA 121,596 $75,640
16 Winnipeg CMA 730,018 $72,050
17 London, ON CMA 474,786 $71,840
18 Windsor, ON CMA 319,246 $69,480
19 Saguenay, QC CMA 157,790 $69,340
20 Saint John, NB CMA 127,761 $69,100
21 Toronto CMA 5,583,064 $68,110
22 Vancouver CMA 2,313,328 $67,090
23 Montreal CMA 3,824,221 $67,010
24 St. Catharines–Niagara CMA 392,184 $65,900
25 Trois-Rivières, QC CMA 151,773 $63,510
26 Sherbrooke, QC CMA 201,890 $63,360
27 Abbotsford-Mission, BC CMA 170,191 $62,320

Did you respond to the wrong comment?

Or maybe on the wrong website?

It would've made more sense had you replied "Dogs".

Oh look who's back. How you doin Skippy? Still female doging about Corrado not being on the Olympic team?
- prock

Did you respond to the wrong comment?

Or maybe on the wrong website?

It would've made more sense had you replied "Dogs".
- walshyleafsfan

unreal eh? and he starts with "dumb as a post routine".

It's not a routine for him.

It does not work that way. When a business buys a package of tickets for promotional purposes it is simply a business expense. So, for example, Yellow Pages has x number of tickets to give to loyal customers in Ottawa and Toronto. GTA Yellow Pages can probably cost justify giving out tickets at a 4:1 ratio over Ottawa Yellow Pages.
- spatso

It absolutely works that way. Since it seems you need one, let me give you a quick lesson – when bought by a business, they are expenses. Profit is revenue less expenses. Therefore, a ticket purchased by a company, is listed as an expense. That expense directly reduces the profit of that business. Corporations pay taxes on their profit. In Canada, it’s 25%. So, a $400 ticket(according to the other Sens idiot here) purchased by a company reduces the profits of that company by $400, vs not purchasing that ticket.
- prock

It is actually an important point. I think actually you understand the point. Yellow Pages does not purchase tickets to reduce profit. They give out tickets to preferred customers as part of their client retention program. I am certain they can cost justify and clearly demonstrate how their ticket program supports their sales.

I know the hockey markets in Sunrise and Tampa pretty well and a bit on the Carolina market. Ottawa is a pretty solid market on its own. Comparison between the GTA and Ottawa in any kind of hockey marketing model is entirely foolish.

It is actually an important point. I think actually you understand the point. Yellow Pages does not purchase tickets to reduce profit. They give out tickets to preferred customers as part of their client retention program. I am certain they can cost justify and clearly demonstrate how their ticket program supports their sales.

I know the hockey markets in Sunrise and Tampa pretty well and a bit on the Carolina market. Ottawa is a pretty solid market on its own. Comparison between the GTA and Ottawa in any kind of hockey marketing model is entirely foolish.
- spatso

keep telling me how expenses don't impact profit, you dolt.

Oh look who's back. How you doin Skippy? Still female doging about Corrado not being on the Olympic team?
- prock

I corrected you once already.

No need to argue, I'm smarter than you.

I corrected you once already.

No need to argue, I'm smarter than you.
- golfingsince

Sure Skippy. Corrado for Team Canada!!!!

Sure Skippy. Corrado for Team Canada!!!!
- prock

Do you still sleep with your Jesse Blacker doll?

Do you still sleep with your Jesse Blacker doll?
- golfingsince

Hey, guess what, just as I said back then, they're the same caliber player.

It was you idiots that insisted he was SO MUCH better.

I'm sure Team Canada is watching closely, right skippy?

I think Edmonton and Montreal are the class of Canada.

Next is Ottawa Calgary and Winnipeg

Next is Toronto

Next is Vancouver


In 3-4 years Winnipeg Toronto Edmonton Calgary will all be forces.

Just my opinion.

Hey, guess what, just as I said back then, they're the same caliber player.

It was you idiots that insisted he was SO MUCH better.

I'm sure Team Canada is watching closely, right skippy?
- prock

Actually you said Blacker was much better, and that Fred Gauthier was better than Horvat.

That's OK though, nobody takes you seriously.

Where is Blacker now?

Actually you said Blacker was much better, and that Fred Gauthier was better than Horvat.

That's OK though, nobody takes you seriously.

Where is Blacker now?
- golfingsince

How's trymatkin?

Looks like benning is making as big of a mess with him as he did with mccann and virtanen.

How's trymatkin?

Looks like benning is making as big of a mess with him as he did with mccann and virtanen.
- Tumbleweed

7 games in he is ruined.

I agree