that's SO wrong........all our prospects suck. only the leafs have a good farm system........prock said so.
- sensarmy_11

it's craig button.
.he's almost as much of a retard as you are.

I never mentioned anything about how they're judged outside of their own prospect pool. The leafs top prospects are all in the nhl, so no one expect them to be in top. That wasn't the point. My point is I have a hard time putting faith in the list (button has a history of poor lists) when it's clearly flawed.
- burn

I'm sure his order might be a little off (although when talking prospects it's all subjective anyways) but I'm that for the most part he has most of the right guys there.

as for your prospects and the order that he ranks them.........can't really argue one way or the other. was surprised rychel wasn't included but he might be a bit old

I never mentioned anything about how they're judged outside of their own prospect pool. The leafs top prospects are all in the nhl, so no one expect them to be in top. That wasn't the point. My point is I have a hard time putting faith in the list (button has a history of poor lists) when it's clearly flawed.

Big 3? There are clearly 3 elite guys but there is clearly more than just those 3. Brown a rookie on pace for 20 goals. Lipstick and kapenen are top level ahl players that have a shot. Plenty of young Marlies making an impact. Saying 3 guy is all there is is blatantly false.
- burn

I didn't say 3 was all there was.......I said there was no "top end" guys. brown is good, and the other guys I'm sure are there too....but I don't think they're projected to be top end impact players.

Regarding the button list:

He lists brooks as 19, he's 21 in 3 months.

Hard to beleive he knows the player and his projections as a prospect if he doesn't have the age right.....

Goes to my point earlier about not being able to beleive the list cause he can't get it right.

it's craig button.
.he's almost as much of a retard as you are.
- prock

awwwwwwww, is poor prock upset that none of the leaf prospects were on the list.

here's a cookie big guy, you go have a good cry

I didn't say 3 was all there was.......I said there was no "top end" guys. brown is good, and the other guys I'm sure are there too....but I don't think they're projected to be top end impact players.
- sensarmy_11

20 goal rookie with his background is pretty impressive.

20 goal rookie with his background is pretty impressive.
- burn

definitely impressive, but like you said, given his background is it sustainable or just a good year.

maybe it's the "Hammond factor" but I'm always skeptical of guys coming 'out of nowhere' and putting up unexpected numbers. maybe brown ends up being great for you guys, who knows.

awwwwwwww, is poor prock upset that none of the leaf prospects were on the list.

here's a cookie big guy, you go have a good cry


- sensarmy_11

nope. nothing would upset me when the list of top rookies is filled with Leafs.

what is it, 6 in the top 20 scoring rookies?

I'm quite pleased with the best group of rookies any team has ever assembled in the history of the NHL.

nope. nothing would upset me when the list of top rookies is filled with Leafs.

what is it, 6 in the top 20 scoring rookies?

I'm quite pleased with the best group of rookies any team has ever assembled in the history of the NHL.
- prock

okay there spatso......er I mean prock. I guess today you're using your prock account. sorry, so easy to mix them up.

that's SO wrong........all our prospects suck. only the leafs have a good farm system........prock said so.
- sensarmy_11

leafs had 0 out of 50, on that list ......... Ottawa has 4 out of 50 ........... so I guess that means the leafs are in a better situation????

awwwwwwww, is poor prock upset that none of the leaf prospects were on the list.

here's a cookie big guy, you go have a good cry


- sensarmy_11

i want a cookie

definitely impressive, but like you said, given his background is it sustainable or just a good year.

maybe it's the "Hammond factor" but I'm always skeptical of guys coming 'out of nowhere' and putting up unexpected numbers. maybe brown ends up being great for you guys, who knows.
- sensarmy_11

By "His background" he meant "history of excelling in every league he's played in"

okay there spatso......er I mean prock. I guess today you're using your prock account. sorry, so easy to mix them up.
- sensarmy_11

name a better group chump.

the only one that comes close to my knowledge is Heatley and Kovalchuk. and I'd say we've got that beat.

definitely impressive, but like you said, given his background is it sustainable or just a good year.

maybe it's the "Hammond factor" but I'm always skeptical of guys coming 'out of nowhere' and putting up unexpected numbers. maybe brown ends up being great for you guys, who knows.
- sensarmy_11

Hammond wasnt drafted... a better comparison might be Stone of Hoffman ..5/6 round picks ..Brown a 6th

leafs had 0 out of 50, on that list ......... Ottawa has 4 out of 50 ........... so I guess that means the leafs are in a better situation????
- D0PPELGANGER

The Leafs have 9 rookies in the NHL contributing to the Team being in a playoff spot less than a season after finishing 30th

The Sens have prospects on a list made up by Craig Button

So yes

I love it when people quote Craig Button and/or Darren Dreger.

Regarding the button list:

He lists brooks as 19, he's 21 in 3 months.

Hard to beleive he knows the player and his projections as a prospect if he doesn't have the age right.....

Goes to my point earlier about not being able to beleive the list cause he can't get it right.
- burn

Do you really expect Button to know the age/ability/potential of these players?

The Leafs have 9 rookies in the NHL contributing to the Team being in a playoff spot less than a season after finishing 30th

The Sens have prospects on a list made up by Craig Button

So yes
- senstroll

The Sens had their big influx of rookies a few seasons back, so the leaf are a few years behind in each teams respective "rebuilds". Ottawa suffered a set back when Spezza asked for a trade, so perhaps the leafs have closed the gap a bit, but there is the possibility of the leafs having a "set back" in some sense .......... who knows?

The Sens had their big influx of rookies a few seasons back, so the leaf are a few years behind in each teams respective "rebuilds". Ottawa suffered a set back when Spezza asked for a trade, so perhaps the leafs have closed the gap a bit, but there is the possibility of the leafs having a "set back" in some sense .......... who knows?
- D0PPELGANGER

who was that?

who was that?
- senstroll

Prince+Puempel>Matthews+Marner
AINEC

Sens.

who was that?
- senstroll

Ottawa has 6 rookies in their 2013 - 2014 season.........5 are still with the team.

Ottawa has 6 rookies in their 2013 - 2014 season.........5 are still with the team.
- D0PPELGANGER

that team was lead by Veterans... the "rookies" played like 20 games

not the same thing

that's SO wrong........all our prospects suck. only the leafs have a good farm system........prock said so.
- sensarmy_11

It's Craig Buffoon

The Sens had their big influx of rookies a few seasons back, so the leaf are a few years behind in each teams respective "rebuilds". Ottawa suffered a set back when Spezza asked for a trade, so perhaps the leafs have closed the gap a bit, but there is the possibility of the leafs having a "set back" in some sense .......... who knows?
- D0PPELGANGER

Yes, but a lot of Ottawa's rookies were older and of lower quality.

It's possible that the Leafs may suffer a set back in the future. But this isn't the "who is more likely to suffer an unforseen setback" thread.