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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007
Apr 30 @ 9:31 AM ET



In today's Paper.
- D0PPELGANGER



i am kind of proud of the fact that I never gave in and hopped onto the fancy stat bandwagon. I don't mind the numbers, they can be fun to talk about. My problem is with the people that keep thinking the numbers are something unto themselves. Like LA won the Corsi trophy. Just so dumb
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Apr 30 @ 10:10 AM ET
According to Statistics Canada, the total number of federal government employees working in the National Capital Region in 2016 jumped by 14,000 to 145,000, representing a 10.5 per cent increase over the previous year. Of Those 145,000.........80,000 have had "issues" with the new Pay system, issues that are still unresolved to this day.
- D0PPELGANGER

So then, why did you insist it was 40% of Ottawa's workforce that was struggling with this?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Apr 30 @ 10:11 AM ET
Says the guy who insists Ottawa has 75% unemployment rate.


- D0PPELGANGER

Im just citing your numbers.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Apr 30 @ 10:12 AM ET
i am kind of proud of the fact that I never gave in and hopped onto the fancy stat bandwagon. I don't mind the numbers, they can be fun to talk about. My problem is with the people that keep thinking the numbers are something unto themselves. Like LA won the Corsi trophy. Just so dumb
- spatso

Ignorance is definitely something to be proud of.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012
Apr 30 @ 11:13 AM ET
i am kind of proud of the fact that I never gave in and hopped onto the fancy stat bandwagon. I don't mind the numbers, they can be fun to talk about. My problem is with the people that keep thinking the numbers are something unto themselves. Like LA won the Corsi trophy. Just so dumb
- spatso


We have better things than Corsi now
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Apr 30 @ 1:49 PM ET
So then, why did you insist it was 40% of Ottawa's workforce that was struggling with this?
- Feeling Glucky?



You're putting words into my mouth ................ but that's what you do.

I pointed out that there are still issues with Ottawa's largest employer, in regards to their pay system ........... you're the one that extrapolated that there was a 75% unemployment rate in Ottawa.

Just because the leafs are no longer working, you have to fine something to waste your time on I guess .............
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Apr 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
We have better things than Corsi now
- PhillySportsGuy




But Corsi has proven to leaf fans, that their team will win the Cup as early as next season, and that the Senators only made the playoffs because their goaltender was lucky, or they played vs the other teams back up, and Karlsson would only be a third pairing D Man if he were a leaf .................. yadda yadda yadda.


It's incredibly funny to watch all the rattled leaf fans come apart at the seems over the last few pages, since the 2018 Stanley Cup Champions were sent to the golf course in April, as usual.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007
Apr 30 @ 6:50 PM ET
i'm rooting (cheering) for the Sens but how come there are so many empty seats for a playoff game in Ottawa?
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
Apr 30 @ 6:52 PM ET
i'm rooting (cheering) for the Sens but how come there are so many empty seats for a playoff game in Ottawa?
- Crimsoninja

Most Sens fans have to go to church
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Apr 30 @ 7:46 PM ET
You're putting words into my mouth ................ but that's what you do.

I pointed out that there are still issues with Ottawa's largest employer, in regards to their pay system ........... you're the one that extrapolated that there was a 75% unemployment rate in Ottawa.

Just because the leafs are no longer working, you have to fine something to waste your time on I guess .............
- D0PPELGANGER

Sorry, are these the words I put in your mouth?

40% of employed people, work for the Public Service ....... not 8%.......... ......... unless you expect kindergarten aged season ticket holders.



- D0PPELGANGER



Believe it or not, I don't actually believe that Ottawa has a 25% employment rate. I was using that to point out your extremely tenuous grasp on these things called numbers.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
Apr 30 @ 7:55 PM ET
Sorry, are these the words I put in your mouth?




Believe it or not, I don't actually believe that Ottawa has a 25% employment rate. I was using that to point out your extremely tenuous grasp on these things called numbers.
- Feeling Glucky?

that;s not the only thing you put in his mouth!!!!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012
Apr 30 @ 8:04 PM ET
i'm rooting (cheering) for the Sens but how come there are so many empty seats for a playoff game in Ottawa?
- Crimsoninja


They're terrible fans who deserve to have the franchise moved to Huntsville, Alabama
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010
Apr 30 @ 8:29 PM ET
i'm rooting (cheering) for the Sens but how come there are so many empty seats for a playoff game in Ottawa?
- Crimsoninja

4k tv's >>> irl
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
Apr 30 @ 8:46 PM ET
i'm rooting (cheering) for the Sens but how come there are so many empty seats for a playoff game in Ottawa?
- Crimsoninja

Unlike the NFL draft in Philly, people have to attend their honeymoons.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
Apr 30 @ 8:47 PM ET
4k tv's >>> irl
- Nucker101

This is actually true.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007
May 1 @ 6:45 AM ET

- D0PPELGANGER



Where are the Leafs.

This chart is not valid without showing the Leaf probability to win the Cup.

Nobody cares about the 2017 Cup.

What are the Leaf chances of winning the Cup in 2018 or 2019 or 2031?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
May 1 @ 7:11 AM ET
Where are the Leafs.

This chart is not valid without showing the Leaf probability to win the Cup.

Nobody cares about the 2017 Cup.

What are the Leaf chances of winning the Cup in 2018 or 2019 or 2031?
- spatso

Higher than the Senators' odds. Hell, the teams have even odds this year.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 1 @ 8:36 AM ET
Higher than the Senators' odds. Hell, the teams have even odds this year.
- Feeling Glucky?



Methinks that Ottawa have much better odds this year, than the 2018 Stanley Cup Champions leafs do.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
May 1 @ 9:00 AM ET



In today's Paper.
- D0PPELGANGER



Congrats on taking Corsi down, at least we know 100% now that these stats are a farce.

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 1 @ 9:11 AM ET
Congrats on taking Corsi down, at least we know 100% now that these stats are a farce.
- senstroll




No, they are just another tool, in assessing a player or prospect, or perhaps a teams tendencies .......... but it is not the magic elixir that some of you leaf fans make it out to be ................... if it was, NHL teams would have slashed their Scouting staffs, and eliminate prospect interviews.

As I've said for years now, analytics were Taylor made for MLB, and has much much less of an impact on the NHL.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 1 @ 9:17 AM ET
I think Pageau is better than Giroux.


Glad to get that off my chest.
- golfingsince
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 1 @ 9:20 AM ET
Ottawa is definitely making the playoffs and winning at least 2 rounds.. probably the Cup
- senstroll



Great prediction, but I think if the Sens manage to get past the Rangers, the Penguins will be a HUGE barrier to get past........... I think the Sens limit is the ECFs.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 1 @ 9:23 AM ET
Pagiroux? Brassard?
- systemtool



Playing in the second round.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 1 @ 9:26 AM ET
congrats on all the success
- daeth



thanks, it's not over yet though ...........
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 1 @ 9:30 AM ET
The Sens are fairly average when it comes to the underlying data. Its hard to see how they are in the position they are currently, but here we are.


- senstroll



8 and 2 in their last 10 (one goal) games.
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