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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
May 23 @ 11:59 AM ET
Honestly, do Sens fans not get that this is likely their last chance for the next decade to see their team in the playoffs?

Is knowing that it's a meaningless run outweighing that?
- Feeling Glucky?



Well i wouldnt call it meaningless. I am sure its been a lot of fun to watch as a fan. also its not over yet

But it could push them further down an all in path.
I dont really see what other option they have
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
May 23 @ 12:08 PM ET
Sens are really the all innest team
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
May 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
That's a rather dumb statement.
- golfingsince

It's not a statement, it's a pair of questions.

Just trying to identify the reason Sens fans aren't going to games, beyond saving their money for preseason cfl tickets one month away.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
May 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
🆒
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
May 23 @ 3:57 PM ET
It's not a statement, it's a pair of questions.

Just trying to identify the reason Sens fans aren't going to games, beyond saving their money for preseason cfl tickets one month away.
- Feeling Glucky?


You're making a statement about if likely being their last playoff appearance for a decade.......and it's dumb.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
May 23 @ 3:59 PM ET
You don't get to 700+ pages by saying smart stuff
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
May 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
You don't get to 700+ pages by saying smart stuff
- daeth
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007
May 23 @ 7:01 PM ET
You don't get to 700+ pages by saying smart stuff
- daeth
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
May 23 @ 7:40 PM ET
You're making a statement about if likely being their last playoff appearance for a decade.......and it's dumb.
- golfingsince


it's a little overstated. but would you really argue with the statement "this senaturds core is not built to win a cup, and will need a full rebuild before they do"?

they may scrape into the playoffs here and there, but they can't compete with a truly elite team like the penguins. cup winning teams tend to have 3 or more elite players, and some very good depth. the senaturds don't have anything close to that. and those players are near impossible to acquire other than drafting very high.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
May 23 @ 9:26 PM ET
it's a little overstated. but would you really argue with the statement "this senaturds core is not built to win a cup, and will need a full rebuild before they do"?

they may scrape into the playoffs here and there, but they can't compete with a truly elite team like the penguins. cup winning teams tend to have 3 or more elite players, and some very good depth. the senaturds don't have anything close to that. and those players are near impossible to acquire other than drafting very high.
- prock


They won't need a full rebuild, they will need to add however.

It's hard to discuss it seriously with you because your hatred jades your views. Karlsson is a generational Dman, wether or not you agree.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013
May 23 @ 9:33 PM ET

SENS
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
May 23 @ 9:45 PM ET
They won't need a full rebuild, they will need to add however.

It's hard to discuss it seriously with you because your hatred jades your views. Karlsson is a generational Dman, wether or not you agree.
- golfingsince


offensively yes. until thisbyear he's been generationally bad defensively. now he's just below average.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
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May 23 @ 9:47 PM ET
offensively yes. until thisbyear he's been generationally bad defensively. now he's just below average.
- prock

He's well above average. The guy controls the play for half the game.......
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007
May 23 @ 9:50 PM ET
He's well above average. The guy controls the play for half the game.......
- golfingsince

prock = spatso = d0pps = dt99999
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
May 23 @ 9:53 PM ET
He's well above average. The guy controls the play for half the game.......
- golfingsince


defensively?

absolutely not.

the struggle defensively with him on the ice. it's a fact.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
May 23 @ 9:58 PM ET
defensively?

absolutely not.

the struggle defensively with him on the ice. it's a fact.
- prock


He's excellent defensively, because he limits chances by turning the puck up ice. He's not that stay at home type that just guards the front of the net.

If he were a Leaf you'd be calling him the best ever.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
May 23 @ 10:03 PM ET
The only thing he's not good at is 1 on 1 defending. He gets beat 1 on 1 more than most top dmen. Nobody can exit the zone better than him in the whole league though. His style of D is how the NHL is played now. It's how you win.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
May 23 @ 10:20 PM ET
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
May 23 @ 10:39 PM ET
He's excellent defensively, because he limits chances by turning the puck up ice. He's not that stay at home type that just guards the front of the net.

If he were a Leaf you'd be calling him the best ever.
- golfingsince


if he truly is good at limiting chances then why do shots against, chances against, and goals against all go up with him on the ice, even though he gets cushy deployment? (I.e. very high offensive zone deployment, very low dzone deployment, and relatively easy Qualcomp among first pairing d).

that just doesn't sound like someone limiting chances. sounds like someone getting a lot, at the cost of giving up a lot.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012
May 23 @ 10:58 PM ET
Nothing like playoff action in front of an almost sellout crowd
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008
May 23 @ 11:04 PM ET
Nothing like playoff action in front of an almost sellout crowd
- PhillySportsGuy
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011
May 23 @ 11:14 PM ET
if he truly is good at limiting chances then why do shots against, chances against, and goals against all go up with him on the ice, even though he gets cushy deployment? (I.e. very high offensive zone deployment, very low dzone deployment, and relatively easy Qualcomp among first pairing d).

that just doesn't sound like someone limiting chances. sounds like someone getting a lot, at the cost of giving up a lot.
- prock

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...transformed-game-2016-17/

You'd have to read and open your mind so i'm not sure you'll be interested.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
May 23 @ 11:17 PM ET
I was told today was elimination day. Guess it was cancelled
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 23 @ 11:51 PM ET
We also don't have any other competition for our entertainment dollars.


Nothing close to pre-ordering CFL pre-season tickets, anyways.


edit: I don't think people in the GTA should count. It's an hour's drive to the ACC for most of them!
- Feeling Glucky?



Ottawa Fury was also playing tonight
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
May 23 @ 11:54 PM ET
Happy Sens elimination day
- senstroll





did not see them shaking hands tonight?????
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