???what does that have to do with anything? Skill, ability productivity matters more no?

When phanuefs contract exprires the leafs will be 3years removed from Moore and 1year removed from Marlena and hainsey. What's your point?
- burn

Phaneuf was a force for the Sens in the playoffs. Played tough physical game. Was a leader on and off the ice in Sens run to ECF.

Point is Phaneuf is a very strong player today 5 years younger than the old guys hired by the Leafs. Makes a lot of Leaf fans comments sound somewhat strange based on last year.

Too funny. Always can count on Leafs for a laugh.

Marleau is 38, Dominic Moore is 38 and Ron Haninsey is 36 on opening day. Generally I am supportive of the Shanaplan. But, I don't understand this move to post prime players.

Are the Leafs going backwards with these signings?
- spatso

they also let other veterans walk which you ignore. adding three vets takes nothing away from the amazing collection of youth and the depth of it Toronto will ice next season.


summer talk spatso edition. speaking of which I should bring up last year's summer talk...

How'd they match up when they were on the same team? How to their numbers match up in junior? No response for that eh, just gloss over it as usual. No idea how Dermott would have faired in that tournament dominating teenagers cause he was too busy playing solid pro game.
- burn

Duh, Chabot is a year younger and a different draft class.

Now you want to let Leaf prospect play as an over ager to make a point. Get serious.

Phaneuf was a force for the Sens in the playoffs. Played tough physical game. Was a leader on and off the ice in Sens run to ECF.

Point is Phaneuf is a very strong player today 5 years younger than the old guys hired by the Leafs. Makes a lot of Leaf fans comments sound somewhat strange based on last year.

Too funny. Always can count on Leafs for a laugh.
- spatso

Is that why they tried everything in their power this summer to get away from phanuef? Weird.

What makes the leafs fans comments from last year sound strange?

they also let other veterans walk which you ignore. adding three vets takes nothing away from the amazing collection of youth and the depth of it Toronto will ice next season.


summer talk spatso edition. speaking of which I should bring up last year's summer talk...
- systemtool

Everybody lets veterans walk as Sens are doing this year. Sens are replacing vets with rookie prospects.

Leaf veterans chose to sign with other teams and they replaced them with even older guys. Sad.

TSN listed the best 50 prospects outside NHL. Ottawa has 4 players on list. Chabot is #3 overall. Leafs do not have a single prospect listed. But they have signed 3 guys pushing towards 40 years old.
- spatso

NHL made this list.
http://www.nhl.com/stats/...sort=points,goals,assists

compare how many Sens vs leaf players made this list.


fúck you're an idiot.

Duh, Chabot is a year younger and a different draft class.

Now you want to let Leaf prospect play as an over ager to make a point. Get serious.
- spatso

Duh, they are a little over a month apart in age. Both drafted in 2015 you (frank)ing retard.

Get a (frank)ing clue you moron.

Everybody lets veterans walk as Sens are doing this year. Sens are replacing vets with rookie prospects.

Leaf veterans chose to sign with other teams and they replaced them with even older guys. Sad.
- spatso

you sound jealous of something...

Is that why they tried everything in their power this summer to get away from phanuef? Weird.

What makes the leafs fans comments from last year sound strange?
- burn

Sens needed to move a veteran. It had to be Methot or Phaneuf. You know that I think Phaneuf was more valuable than Methot. They are both the same age.

I am okay with the way it has turned out.

you sound jealous of something...
- systemtool

And you sound constipated.

Sens needed to move a veteran. It had to be Methot or Phaneuf. You know that I think Phaneuf was more valuable than Methot. They are both the same age.

I am okay with the way it has turned out.
- spatso

Except even after they lost methot to the expansion draft hey still tried to get rid of him.

Situation Leafs remains normal. Denial is easier than dealing with reality. Last place team that is likely going to set records for futility.
- spatso

summer talk

Duh, what part of last place are you missing. Make the playoffs once in 10 years but somehow this translates into heading in the right direction.
- spatso

summer talk

And you sound constipated.
- spatso

A year apart, different draft years.

Overager vs 16 yr olds......vs a guy who was 19 for half the year as a pro in the ahl.

But they were a year apart and differnt draft years. So (frank)ing clueless. What an embarrassment.

Hockey is a great game because they insist that the scoreboard and clock and standings be used as gauges of success. It is a summer tradition that fans of the blue and white come here and pretend that none of these matter. They chatter on about next season. It has been the same for 10 years. It will be the same again next year. Losers are what losers do and the Leafs have been no shows for every year but one.

And, the one year that they did make the playoffs they did the biggest collapse in playoff history in their series with the Bruins. Why would anybody think that next year will be different? We know that summer is let's pretend season for the blue kool aid crowd. You are having a great off season in once again winning the bragging rights.
- spatso

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Boring. We listen to this kind of crap every summer. It vomits out of Leaf fans, unthinking, unbalanced, even a few that are a little unhinged.

But it is entertaining. Everyone, even the Leaf fans, know that the big stumble starts when they drop the puck for real. Leafs are about 5 years behind Edmonton in their rebuild and you all note that Edmonton is just now starting a rebuild off the rebuild and they have the bet hockey player on the plant.

But it is summer and it is hockey talk and it is, of course, Leaf fans providing the opportunity for laughter.We will wait for the fall before doubling up in laughter as Leaf fans start another false hope cycle.
- spatso

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One of the better blue and white comments.

Kadri 25 years old (will be 26 by season start) 6' and 192 lbs had 17 goals, 28 assists and 48 points. He was minus (15) on the season.

ZBad 23 years old (does not have next birthday until near end of season) 6'2" and 222 lbs. had 21 goals, 30 assists and 51 points. He was minus (2) on the season.

Now tell us again, how do Sens fans misunderstand which is the better asset?

Everybody loves Leafs summer chatter.

Go big blue.
We love you
We know we are due
Don't want to feel blue
So, we'll take on a new hue
We can pretend were not screwed!
- spatso

summer talk

Duh, they are a little over a month apart in age. Both drafted in 2015 you (frank)ing retard.

Get a (frank)ing clue you moron.
- burn

As expected spasotard will pretend this didn't happen, deny deny deny.

Look if the Leafs are a poster boy for analytics than the analytics movement is in free fall towards a near death experience. Leafs were an horrendous last place team last year. They will be worse this year. And, we need to know it is more than the fault of analytics.
- spatso

summer talk

Hey keep it simple. The body of evidence is pretty substantial. Only once in 10 years have the Leafs made the playoffs. The year they made the playoffs against Boston, they offered up the biggest playoff choke in the history of the game.

Now fans are trying to convince themselves they are something other than a last place team. Hey guys, check the scoreboard.
- spatso

summer talk

Last place is last place.

Matthews did not have a particularly strong development camp.

Leafs getting ready for another year of futility.

But, nobody needs to worry about that right now.

It is summer and the Leafs are getting ready for the annual parade planning party.
- spatso

summer talk

Amazing, Leafs are a last place team that will likely finish next year behind their most recent point total. And, Leaf fans say, but, but, but, maybe the Sens won't make the playoffs. Pathetic. Don't even have the illusion that you can finish ahead of anyone. So, you try and find fault in others in order to make yourself feel better.
- spatso

summer talk

Also expect Chabot to see good ice time. Ottawa is very high on him and they are expecting him to contribute this year (“He’s a very special player,” said Lee. Randy Lee is the Asst GM who supposedly had negative comment about Chabot. His comments were in the context of his being a special player and the Sens wanting him to dominate whenever he is on the ice.
- spatso

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- systemtool

This moron talking about Matthews summer development camp he wasn't even there, I saw it first hand. I saw how fresking awaking that kid was.

But spatso said, and his track record is off the charts....

Seriously, Leaf fans are just too thin skinned and incapable of distinguishing teasing from substance. Perhaps, this is entirely understandable given the humiliation that you have endured over the past 10 years. Kessel, Phaneuf and JVR are good hockey players. It is not the players that are the problem it is the Leafs that are problematic.
- spatso

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