The hang-up with the Marleau deal is unquestionably its term. More specifically, it’s how the third year overlaps with the next progression in the maple leafs’ inexact rise: negotiating and housing the second contracts of Matthews, Nylander and Marner.

On the flip side, the third year was without a doubt the sticking point for Marleau, who had all the leverage as a coveted asset entertaining the idea of uprooting his family after two decades in the sunshine of San Jose.

Just how Marleau’s term will impact the leafs is anyone’s guess, but it’s hard to imagine that this rigid deal (one retirement-proof and complete with a no-move) won’t cost them dearly.

toronto had a fixed period to spend, and stepped outside of it. It’s legitimately problematic. And that’s before considering the uncertainty of what Marleau will actually be when that third year rolls around.

Diminishing asset

Almost 38 and well into the back nine for is career, Marleau is beyond his prime. That said, he’s still scoring goals at a consistently solid rate, having maintained an average of 26 goals over the last four years and a 27-goal effort in 2016-17.

Other evaluations, though, indicate that his overall effectiveness as an attacking player is diminishing, and at a relatively steep rate. His 94 points in 164 games over the last two seasons works out to 0.57 points per game, a rate that barely sneaks inside the top 150 in the NHL. (His career mark is 0.72.)

And declining quicker than his overall production is the amount of shots he’s placing on target from season to season. His 190 shots last year were his lowest in a decade, and 95 fewer than what he registered in the seventh 30-goal season of his career four years ago.

Basically every offensive measure suggests that Marleau’s impact is fading, and should continue to subside. Regrettably, this won’t be reflected in an annual wage fixed into his 40s.

The hang-up with the Marleau deal is unquestionably its term. More specifically, it’s how the third year overlaps with the next progression in the maple leafs’ inexact rise: negotiating and housing the second contracts of Matthews, Nylander and Marner.

On the flip side, the third year was without a doubt the sticking point for Marleau, who had all the leverage as a coveted asset entertaining the idea of uprooting his family after two decades in the sunshine of San Jose.

Just how Marleau’s term will impact the leafs is anyone’s guess, but it’s hard to imagine that this rigid deal (one retirement-proof and complete with a no-move) won’t cost them dearly.

toronto had a fixed period to spend, and stepped outside of it. It’s legitimately problematic. And that’s before considering the uncertainty of what Marleau will actually be when that third year rolls around.

Diminishing asset

Almost 38 and well into the back nine for is career, Marleau is beyond his prime. That said, he’s still scoring goals at a consistently solid rate, having maintained an average of 26 goals over the last four years and a 27-goal effort in 2016-17.

Other evaluations, though, indicate that his overall effectiveness as an attacking player is diminishing, and at a relatively steep rate. His 94 points in 164 games over the last two seasons works out to 0.57 points per game, a rate that barely sneaks inside the top 150 in the NHL. (His career mark is 0.72.)

And declining quicker than his overall production is the amount of shots he’s placing on target from season to season. His 190 shots last year were his lowest in a decade, and 95 fewer than what he registered in the seventh 30-goal season of his career four years ago.

Basically every offensive measure suggests that Marleau’s impact is fading, and should continue to subside. Regrettably, this won’t be reflected in an annual wage fixed into his 40s.
- D0PPELGANGER

Thanks d0pss.

You could have just wrote marleau is declining, he’ll probably be good this year, 50/50 he’ll still be good next year and likely won’t be good the 3rd year.

Leafs will have to figure out how to exit the deal in the 3rd year or it could cause them to lose a player they don’t want to lose.

The hang-up with the Marleau deal is unquestionably its term. More specifically, it’s how the third year overlaps with the next progression in the maple leafs’ inexact rise: negotiating and housing the second contracts of Matthews, Nylander and Marner.

On the flip side, the third year was without a doubt the sticking point for Marleau, who had all the leverage as a coveted asset entertaining the idea of uprooting his family after two decades in the sunshine of San Jose.

Just how Marleau’s term will impact the leafs is anyone’s guess, but it’s hard to imagine that this rigid deal (one retirement-proof and complete with a no-move) won’t cost them dearly.

toronto had a fixed period to spend, and stepped outside of it. It’s legitimately problematic. And that’s before considering the uncertainty of what Marleau will actually be when that third year rolls around.

Diminishing asset

Almost 38 and well into the back nine for is career, Marleau is beyond his prime. That said, he’s still scoring goals at a consistently solid rate, having maintained an average of 26 goals over the last four years and a 27-goal effort in 2016-17.

Other evaluations, though, indicate that his overall effectiveness as an attacking player is diminishing, and at a relatively steep rate. His 94 points in 164 games over the last two seasons works out to 0.57 points per game, a rate that barely sneaks inside the top 150 in the NHL. (His career mark is 0.72.)

And declining quicker than his overall production is the amount of shots he’s placing on target from season to season. His 190 shots last year were his lowest in a decade, and 95 fewer than what he registered in the seventh 30-goal season of his career four years ago.

Basically every offensive measure suggests that Marleau’s impact is fading, and should continue to subside. Regrettably, this won’t be reflected in an annual wage fixed into his 40s.
- D0PPELGANGER

Marleau is declining there is no doubt..but it could always be worse

Boyle is better
- Aetherial

Marleau is declining there is no doubt..but it could always be worse



- senstroll

Yeah, Nate Thompson's (Age 32) @ a $1.65 M Cap hit for 2 years, with a 10-team no trade list, can be bought or traded, contract ........ ........... is EXACTLY the same as Marleau's (over age 35) 3 year $6.25 M Cap hit, complete NMC, and can't be bought out (or traded) contract.

Yeah, Nate Thompson's (Age 32) @ a $1.65 M Cap hit for 2 years, with a 10-team no trade list, can be bought or traded, contract ........ ........... is EXACTLY the same as Marleau's (over age 35) 3 year $6.25 M Cap hit, complete NMC, and can't be bought out (or traded) contract.


- D0PPELGANGER

In theory, yes, you can buyout thompson’s contract. But Melnyk is too cheap to buyout a contract. Just look at the hamburgler.

And nobody is trading for a ahl player on an nhl contract…without sending a similar piece of junk back.

Yeah, Nate Thompson's (Age 32) @ a $1.65 M Cap hit for 2 years, with a 10-team no trade list, can be bought or traded, contract ........ ........... is EXACTLY the same as Marleau's (over age 35) 3 year $6.25 M Cap hit, complete NMC, and can't be bought out (or traded) contract.


- D0PPELGANGER

Leafs have a history of dumping undesireable contracts, with a higher cap hit than actual salary. You should know that, as a Sens fan.

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- twiztedmike

A multi-platform idiot.

The hang-up with the Marleau deal is unquestionably its term. More specifically, it’s how the third year overlaps with the next progression in the maple leafs’ inexact rise: negotiating and housing the second contracts of Matthews, Nylander and Marner.

On the flip side, the third year was without a doubt the sticking point for Marleau, who had all the leverage as a coveted asset entertaining the idea of uprooting his family after two decades in the sunshine of San Jose.

Just how Marleau’s term will impact the leafs is anyone’s guess, but it’s hard to imagine that this rigid deal (one retirement-proof and complete with a no-move) won’t cost them dearly.

toronto had a fixed period to spend, and stepped outside of it. It’s legitimately problematic. And that’s before considering the uncertainty of what Marleau will actually be when that third year rolls around.

Diminishing asset

Almost 38 and well into the back nine for is career, Marleau is beyond his prime. That said, he’s still scoring goals at a consistently solid rate, having maintained an average of 26 goals over the last four years and a 27-goal effort in 2016-17.

Other evaluations, though, indicate that his overall effectiveness as an attacking player is diminishing, and at a relatively steep rate. His 94 points in 164 games over the last two seasons works out to 0.57 points per game, a rate that barely sneaks inside the top 150 in the NHL. (His career mark is 0.72.)

And declining quicker than his overall production is the amount of shots he’s placing on target from season to season. His 190 shots last year were his lowest in a decade, and 95 fewer than what he registered in the seventh 30-goal season of his career four years ago.

Basically every offensive measure suggests that Marleau’s impact is fading, and should continue to subside. Regrettably, this won’t be reflected in an annual wage fixed into his 40s.
- D0PPELGANGER

Why bother posting only the half of the article.
Is your point so flimsy that you aren't even secure enough to post the balanced view?

Why bother posting only the half of the article.
Is your point so flimsy that you aren't even secure enough to post the balanced view?
- Aetherial

if he trolls the Marleau contract hard enough the Bobby Ryan and Phaneuf contracts will disappear..

There's no way DERPS and spazz are real... Ashton Kutcher is about to login yelling PUNKD!!!

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- twiztedmike

Yeah, Nate Thompson's (Age 32) @ a $1.65 M Cap hit for 2 years, with a 10-team no trade list, can be bought or traded, contract ........ ........... is EXACTLY the same as Marleau's (over age 35) 3 year $6.25 M Cap hit, complete NMC, and can't be bought out (or traded) contract.


- D0PPELGANGER

Phaneuf
Ryan
Smith
MacArthur

22+ million on the books in poopty salary when you need to resign Karlsson.

In the meantime Turris and Stone will be due for significant raises and what the hell are you going to do for a goalie?

So you want to talk about cap situation vs. talent?

Some tidbits from the article Dopps loves to quote. It clearly isn't at all about Marleau. I have no idea what Dopps is even thinking with this.

The basic premise is that the cap won't allow the leafs to hold on to all their high end talent.

Thank you Dopps, for once again reinforcing our arguement that Leafs > Sens.

From Dopps' article...

The cap is making the Leafs, and other teams, move more quickly than they otherwise would prefer. This system is all about making sure teams don’t get too good, or at least too far ahead of the pack, and if and when they reach championship quality, to make sure they are chopped down to size immediately

... When do we get an article about the Sens high end talent? I suspect in a year or so we will be hearing about the Sens having problems re-signing their ONE high end player.

Marleau, one of the few players in the NHL who could actually make the speedy Leafs even faster, comes in on a relatively ideal three-year contract. He won’t clog up the books for long, which gives Toronto flexibility for future seasons.

Based on last season, he can still play at a high level (27 goals), hasn’t missed a game to injury in eight seasons (incredible), can help a lethal power play be even better and didn’t cost anything more than money and cap space.

.. Oh this must hurt the Sens fans. It must be painful to watch your bigger, better, more relevant, neighbours to the south getting nice things again, while the Sens get, Nate Thompson ... and a bunch of bad contracts.

Some suggest the Leafs could have spent the money on Ilya Kovalchuk, but Marleau’s faster, a better 200-foot player, has a previous relationship with Mike Babcock and is almost certainly more of a short-term commitment than Kovalchuk would be.

Maybe we should have signed Nate Thompson

Some tidbits from the article Dopps loves to quote. It clearly isn't at all about Marleau. I have no idea what Dopps is even thinking with this.

The basic premise is that the cap won't allow the leafs to hold on to all their high end talent.

Thank you Dopps, for once again reinforcing our arguement that Leafs > Sens.

From Dopps' article...



... When do we get an article about the Sens high end talent? I suspect in a year or so we will be hearing about the Sens having problems re-signing their ONE high end player.





.. Oh this must hurt the Sens fans. It must be painful to watch your bigger, better, more relevant, neighbours to the south getting nice things again, while the Sens get, Nate Thompson ... and a bunch of bad contracts.



Maybe we should have signed Nate Thompson
- Aetherial

Leafs suck. They have so many good players, they won’t be able to keep them all. stoopid leaves fans. Lolololol.

~sens fans

Boyle is better

Time for for new location

Boyle is better

Time for for new location
- burn

On it.

Phaneuf
Ryan
Smith
MacArthur

22+ million on the books in poopty salary when you need to resign Karlsson.

In the meantime Turris and Stone will be due for significant raises and what the hell are you going to do for a goalie?

So you want to talk about cap situation vs. talent?


- Aetherial

I think you were a little too mean. You scared then away.

Missed the last 34 pages, so here it goes


LEAFS
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SENS
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Missed the last 34 pages, so here it goes


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- Not_Yan

fixed

Leafs suck. They have so many good players, they won’t be able to keep them all. stoopid leaves fans. Lolololol.

~sens fans
- Tumbleweed

Should be more like us! With a good dman, good goalie, and nothing else!
ETERNAL PRETENDERS FTW

~also Sens fans.

Deranged bunch.

lol

lol
- Ron Guillet

YOU CHANGE THAT AVATAR BACK.

YOU CHANGE THAT AVATAR BACK.
- Feeling Glucky?

It's a new avatar for a new world

Yeah, Nate Thompson's (Age 32) @ a $1.65 M Cap hit for 2 years, with a 10-team no trade list, can be bought or traded, contract ........ ........... is EXACTLY the same as Marleau's (over age 35) 3 year $6.25 M Cap hit, complete NMC, and can't be bought out (or traded) contract.


- D0PPELGANGER

I just dont get paying a player 1.65mil when they are sub NHL replacement level