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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jul 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
Sens made the best run by a Canadian team in a bunch of years. It was the most hockey fun I have had since 2007 and the Cup final.

Most of the fans of other Canadian teams have been pretty good about it. Leaf fans, on the other hand, are so butt hurt over the entire matter that they can't let it go for what it was and remains over this summer for Sens fans.

Jealousy can be a wicked thing.

Kind of fun watching Leaf fans turn from blue to green.
- spatso



Do you enjoy making poop up? How do you figure this to be true?

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Jul 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
At the beginning of last season Boucher said he was going to make the Sens a much better defensive team. He said he was going to sacrifice goal scoring. He said the Sens would make the playoffs.

This year they are planning for substantial improvement.

The most curios comment if the underlying belief on the part of Ottawa management that Chabot is ready to log 1st pairing minutes with Karlsson.

Boucher loves this team. He is entirely confident that it goes to a higher level next year. Boucher has my confidence.
- spatso
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jul 10 @ 12:03 PM ET
So, your still hurting over last year's dialogue.

Your just way too easy. Next year comes soon enough.
- spatso


I think it is pretty clear one of us is hurting
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007
Jul 10 @ 12:05 PM ET
Worked this weekend. Off today. Mrs. Spatso wants to go out for lunch. So, I am out for a few hours. Everyone play nice.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jul 10 @ 12:05 PM ET
At the beginning of last season Boucher said he was going to make the Sens a much better defensive team. He said he was going to sacrifice goal scoring. He said the Sens would make the playoffs.

This year they are planning for substantial improvement.

The most curios comment if the underlying belief on the part of Ottawa management that Chabot is ready to log 1st pairing minutes with Karlsson.

Boucher loves this team. He is entirely confident that it goes to a higher level next year. Boucher has my confidence.
- spatso
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jul 10 @ 12:06 PM ET
Yes, of course, just like this summer.

It is entirely delightful to have you rubbing it in.

Perhaps, if, we are truly honest, we might succeed and make next year even more painful than this summer.
- spatso


you have a lot of pain coming. I'm just thankful you're dumb enough to come back for more.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jul 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
At the beginning of last season Boucher said he was going to make the Sens a much better defensive team. He said he was going to sacrifice goal scoring. He said the Sens would make the playoffs.

This year they are planning for substantial improvement.

The most curios comment if the underlying belief on the part of Ottawa management that Chabot is ready to log 1st pairing minutes with Karlsson.

Boucher loves this team. He is entirely confident that it goes to a higher level next year. Boucher has my confidence.
- spatso



OH GOD, please to the sens play chabot in 1st pair this year!!!
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
At the beginning of last season Boucher said he was going to make the Sens a much better defensive team. He said he was going to sacrifice goal scoring. He said the Sens would make the playoffs.

This year they are planning for substantial improvement.

The most curios comment if the underlying belief on the part of Ottawa management that Chabot is ready to log 1st pairing minutes with Karlsson.

Boucher loves this team. He is entirely confident that it goes to a higher level next year. Boucher has my confidence.
- spatso


Ask the Bolts how it went after their trip to the ECF with Boucher at the helm.





I'll tell you:
- out of the playoffs
-fired the following year
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
I have some good contacts around the Ottawa. Good enough to the point that they are always careful never to provide me with any inside information.

But, I can tell you with very great assurance they really like this team and they are very confident about the coming season.
- spatso


What does this even mean?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jul 10 @ 12:23 PM ET
What does this even mean?
- senstroll



I know right?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007
Jul 10 @ 1:41 PM ET
Phaneuf 32; Hainsey 37.
- spatso


he'll even at 37 is rather Hainsey.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jul 10 @ 1:53 PM ET
Curios, why would you cite a list of "older" core players that includes Chris Neil and Chris Kelly. They have already been advised that they will not be offered contracts for next year. On the other hand, your list does not include the young guys like Chabot, White and Harpur that are destined to be part of next year's roster.
- spatso





curious


adjective
1.eager to learn or know; inquisitive.
2.prying; meddlesome.
3.arousing or exciting speculation, interest, or attention through being inexplicable or highly unusual; odd; strange:
a curious sort of person; a curious scene.
4.Archaic.

made or prepared skillfully.
done with painstaking accuracy or attention to detail:
a curious inquiry.
careful; fastidious.
marked by intricacy or subtlety.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jul 10 @ 1:56 PM ET
Sens core and better players are in or passed their prime for the most part.

the opposite is true for the Leafs.

so satisfying to know we have less long term albatross contracts to boot


Leafs set up well for a long time. Sens set up for a questionable future. you can see it in their thread from fan reaction.
- systemtool



leafs are in "MUST Win now" mode ........ they have two years, until they have to re-sign Matthews to his second contract.

Their window is open for two seasons, then ....................
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 10 @ 2:01 PM ET
leafs are in "MUST Win now" mode ........ they have two years, until they have to re-sign Matthews to his second contract.

Their window is open for two seasons, then ....................
- D0PPELGANGER


People were saying that about Crosby/Malkin/Letang


...and yet
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 10 @ 2:06 PM ET
People were saying that about Crosby/Malkin/Letang


...and yet
- Pecafan Fan


Crosby 8.7
Malkin 9.5
Letang 7.2
Kessel 6.8

You cant win having 32mil tied up in 4 players
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Jul 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
leafs are in "MUST Win now" mode ........ they have two years, until they have to re-sign Matthews to his second contract.

Their window is open for two seasons, then ....................
- D0PPELGANGER



......it stays open for 8 more
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 10 @ 2:08 PM ET
Crosby 8.7
Malkin 9.5
Letang 7.2
Kessel 6.8

You cant win having 32mil tied up in 4 players
- senstroll


IMPOSSIBRUUUHHHH!!!
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jul 10 @ 2:09 PM ET
Crosby 8.7
Malkin 9.5
Letang 7.2
Kessel 6.8

You cant win having 32mil tied up in 4 players
- senstroll


It also helps if toronto is still paying 1.2 of Kessel's salary (for the last two seasons, and the following 5 more seasons)

Don't you think it helps having Murray on his ELC .............. they don't win either of their last two cups without him.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Jul 10 @ 2:11 PM ET
Don't you think it helps having Murray on his ELC .............. they don't win either of their last two cups without him.
- D0PPELGANGER




still managed to win with a $5M backup.


senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 10 @ 2:13 PM ET
It also helps if toronto is still paying 1.2 of Kessel's salary (for the last two seasons, and the following 5 more seasons)

Don't you think it helps having Murray on his ELC .............. they don't win either of their last two cups without him.
- D0PPELGANGER


lol ... thats why I added 6.8 for Kessel

and what did the Pens have tied up in goalies total?

stop changing the argument
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jul 10 @ 2:20 PM ET
lol ... thats why I added 6.8 for Kessel

and what did the Pens have tied up in goalies total?

stop changing the argument
- senstroll



So with toronto's 2 year "MUST win NOW mode" window ........... do they have the required goal tending to actually take a run at the Cup for the next two seasons ?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 10 @ 2:26 PM ET
So with toronto's 2 year "MUST win NOW mode" window ........... do they have the required goal tending to actually take a run at the Cup for the next two seasons ?
- D0PPELGANGER


I dont see it as MUST win NOW mode, they should take a shot and use the cap space while they have it...since you dont get a refund on the unused part and they are not the cheapo Sens budget team

you like to take some words and push them to the extreme to try and make a point or paint someone in a corner..its dumb
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jul 10 @ 2:32 PM ET
I dont see it as MUST win NOW mode, they should take a shot and use the cap space while they have it...since you dont get a refund on the unused part and they are not the cheapo Sens budget team

you like to take some words and push them to the extreme to try and make a point or paint someone in a corner..its dumb
- senstroll



like saying the Sens are a cheapo budget team?

There are currently about ten teams with more cap space than the Sens
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Jul 10 @ 2:40 PM ET
like saying the Sens are a cheapo budget team?

There are currently about ten teams with more cap space than the Sens
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams
- D0PPELGANGER
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jul 10 @ 3:01 PM ET
leafs are in "MUST Win now" mode ........ they have two years, until they have to re-sign Matthews to his second contract.

Their window is open for two seasons, then ....................
- D0PPELGANGER


Yeah, the Leafs have too much talent!

Amazing how you guys are struggling so much with reality that you need to twist high-end talent into a negative.

It must be WAY better to have 20+ million of dead contracts you need to get rid of before you sign your ONE star player.
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