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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jul 10 @ 3:04 PM ET
I dont see it as MUST win NOW mode, they should take a shot and use the cap space while they have it...since you dont get a refund on the unused part and they are not the cheapo Sens budget team

you like to take some words and push them to the extreme to try and make a point or paint someone in a corner..its dumb
- senstroll


Somehow, the Leafs have the greatest rookie influx in NHL history and the Sens fans are trying like hell to turn it into something negative, so they don't cry themselves to sleep every night.

yeah, I am soooo jealous of that 28th pick they "won".

Then they take hope from our ONE bad contract, that is only dicey in yr. 3 while managing to forget their own stable of overpaid, past their prime players.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006
Jul 10 @ 3:22 PM ET
So with toronto's 2 year "MUST win NOW mode" window ........... do they have the required goal tending to actually take a run at the Cup for the next two seasons ?
- D0PPELGANGER


Oh this is your best yet...

Now our goaltending is the problem?

Gee, would you rather have a 27 year old with a bright future signed at an affordable 4 more years, or an on-again-off-again 36 year old starter, signed for one more year.

Speaking of win-now mode... Unfortunately, your "Win-Now" was last season when you faced AHL defensemen in the playoffs.

Yeah, you are doing an excellent job of bringing up the Leafs "problems".
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jul 10 @ 3:31 PM ET
LEAfs have a pile of 19-21 yr olds..... but it's win now, 2 year window.


But it's the leafs that are jealous and butthurt
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jul 10 @ 10:35 PM ET
leafs are in "MUST Win now" mode ........ they have two years, until they have to re-sign Matthews to his second contract.

Their window is open for two seasons, then ....................
- D0PPELGANGER



This makes no sense....what happens? Matthews vanishes? He turns into Turris? What!?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jul 10 @ 10:37 PM ET
Matthews is so good the leafs can't win with him! Ha take that leaf fans.
- DO0opps
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jul 10 @ 10:38 PM ET
LEAfs have a pile of 19-21 yr olds..... but it's win now, 2 year window.


But it's the leafs that are jealous and butthurt
- burn



Leafs are so good and so young they can never win. But our old guys will only get better next year!
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012
Jul 10 @ 10:39 PM ET
Reality is going to be tough for Sens fans.
- Aetherial

Only the ones who are in touch with reality. Our friends in this thread will be just fine.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007
Jul 10 @ 10:41 PM ET
like saying the Sens are a cheapo budget team?

There are currently about ten teams with more cap space than the Sens
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams
- D0PPELGANGER



I know high standards isn't the Sens forte but taking pride on being eleventh from last is kinda sad.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jul 10 @ 11:16 PM ET
Cats have over one hundred vocal sounds. Dogs only have about 10.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017
Jul 11 @ 2:37 AM ET
Another person who decided to comment never having watched the actual games.
- spatso


Wrong again, Spazzo. It's pretty clear that the only one who hasn't watched any actual gameplay is you. 'Cause if you had, you'd know that Brown was mediocre at best this year, playoffs, and Memorial cup.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017
Jul 11 @ 2:44 AM ET
You are still trying to suck and blow at same time.

In the end, it comes down to the actual hard result.

Sens won!
- spatso
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007
Jul 11 @ 7:46 AM ET
Kevin Shattenkirk could’ve gotten more money but took less to join the New York Rangers.

Joe Thornton could’ve gotten a multi-year deal from someone but wanted to stay with the San Jose Sharks.

Brian Campbell and Patrick Sharp could’ve gotten more money the past two summers but took the Chicago discount to return the Blackhawks.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009
Jul 11 @ 8:00 AM ET
Kevin Shattenkirk could’ve gotten more money but took less to join the New York Rangers.

Joe Thornton could’ve gotten a multi-year deal from someone but wanted to stay with the San Jose Sharks.

Brian Campbell and Patrick Sharp could’ve gotten more money the past two summers but took the Chicago discount to return the Blackhawks.
- spatso


The Senators wanted to expose Phaneuf to the expansion draft but lost Methot instead.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jul 11 @ 8:19 AM ET
The Senators wanted to expose Phaneuf to the expansion draft but lost Methot instead.
- Pecafan Fan



Just becuase the sens tried to dump Dion in the expansion draft and tried to trade him a million times doesn't mean they didn't want to keep him.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jul 11 @ 8:33 AM ET
"Dreamt" is the only English word that ends in the letters "MT".
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011
Jul 11 @ 9:22 AM ET
"Dreamt" is the only English word that ends in the letters "MT".
- D0PPELGANGER

Not true.

Fake news as always with you
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jul 11 @ 9:25 AM ET
Not true.

Fake news as always with you
- walshyleafsfan



What's another word, that end with "mt" ?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011
Jul 11 @ 9:27 AM ET
What's another word, that end with "mt" ?
- D0PPELGANGER


Undreamt
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015
Jul 11 @ 9:36 AM ET
Undreamt
- walshyleafsfan



Same root word .......... but nice try.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Jul 11 @ 9:40 AM ET

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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Jul 11 @ 9:46 AM ET
like saying the Sens are a cheapo budget team?

There are currently about ten teams with more cap space than the Sens
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams
- D0PPELGANGER

Yes, but that's because the Leafs dumped the high cap hit from Phaneuf on the Sens, even though his actual salary is lower. This is probably true for other players as well.


People like you are why the Leafs will be able to dump Marleau on the Sens, if he's not productive in his 3rd year. Melnyk can pretend not to be cheap because some idiots will just look at the cap number and convince themselves that the owner cares about winning.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007
Jul 11 @ 9:50 AM ET
Yeah, the Leafs have too much talent!

Amazing how you guys are struggling so much with reality that you need to twist high-end talent into a negative.

It must be WAY better to have 20+ million of dead contracts you need to get rid of before you sign your ONE star player.
- Aetherial



Sens had a hugely successful year. Regular season and playoffs went exceptionally well. Now, they are moving out some older players for the coming year and adding some highly talented rookies that had great years last year.

Leafs on the other hand are bringing in a group of guys that will be pushing age 40 by the end of their short term deals.

Sens have 4 top prospects on the TSN top 50 prospect list. Leafs have 0.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007
Jul 11 @ 9:53 AM ET
Yes, but that's because the Leafs dumped the high cap hit from Phaneuf on the Sens, even though his actual salary is lower. This is probably true for other players as well.


People like you are why the Leafs will be able to dump Marleau on the Sens, if he's not productive in his 3rd year. Melnyk can pretend not to be cheap because some idiots will just look at the cap number and convince themselves that the owner cares about winning.
- Feeling Glucky?


Phaneuf had a magnificent playoff. Especially in the first round against the Bruins. Sens would not have succeeded without Phaneuf in their line up.

Leafs struggled against the Caps. They were especially weak on defence.

If Phaneuf had been in the Leaf line up they would have been able to compete harder against the Caps.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Jul 11 @ 10:22 AM ET
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014
Jul 11 @ 11:07 AM ET
Kevin Shattenkirk could’ve gotten more money but took less to join the New York Rangers.

Joe Thornton could’ve gotten a multi-year deal from someone but wanted to stay with the San Jose Sharks.

Brian Campbell and Patrick Sharp could’ve gotten more money the past two summers but took the Chicago discount to return the Blackhawks.
- spatso


You would think with the Sens getting half way to winning a Stanley cup that free agents would be knocking down Dorion’s door to get a chance to play with a true contender.

Who’d the sens sign again?
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