Pronman posted his prospect ranking
Top 100

I dont have access and dont see the full list posted somewhere yet.
But from reddit

40) Kasperi Kapanen
43) Timothy Liljegren
73) Travis Dermott
79) Jeremy Bracco

Goalies
7) Joseph Woll


For our Atlantic Division rivals, Tampa Bay had the most prospects in the top 100 with 6, Detroit with 5, Toronto/Buffalo with 4, Ottawa/Montreal/Boston/Florida with 3.

Leafs Ranked 13 overall, kinda surprising they are still that high and have 4 in top 100

If any knows the full list ....<>

Fishing has been inconsistent all summer. 43 bass caught in 2 days (all small) with three lines in the boat. Next 2 days not even a nibble. Think it has something to do with all the rain. Having difficulty reading the water. None of the hot spots seem to be working.

Huge fog this morning after heavy rain last night. Slow to get going. Will wait for some of it to burn off. Bringing the boat over and going to try Crotch Lake. It is a huge lake with a great reputation.

Training camps starting soon enough.

Pronman posted his prospect ranking
Top 100

I dont have access and dont see the full list posted somewhere yet.
But from reddit



Leafs Ranked 13 overall, kinda surprising they are still that high and have 4 in top 100

If any knows the full list ....<>
- senstroll

Pronman is about the worst. Never able to figure out his logic. Seeds a lot of name kids, especially US kids that never make NHL. Also does not seem to understand that one huge talent (eg McDavid) can have more value than all the prospects combined from another farm.

It is my belief that nobody does the draft and prospect evaluations better than TSN. Their draft day accuracy is very precise. And their talent assessments seem hot wired to the pros that are making the decisions. Updated list comes in September.

http://www.tsn.ca/test1-1.677389

I know a lot of Senator fans, who think that Tomas Chabot is going to make the Senators starting roster this season, and will be playing in the "top four".

I've been saying all along that he will be sent to Belleville for all or most of the coming season to develop, and gain experience vs men at the prop level, in the AHL.

Think that the Senators hiring of Paul Boutilier as new Assistant Coach in Belleville pretty much shows this is the case.

However long it takes for him to gain the confidence of the NHL coaching staff, he will stay in the AHL and get called up if he earns it at that level.

Pronman is about the worst. Never able to figure out his logic. Seeds a lot of name kids, especially US kids that never make NHL. Also does not seem to understand that one huge talent (eg McDavid) can have more value than all the prospects combined from another farm.

It is my belief that nobody does the draft and prospect evaluations better than TSN. Their draft day accuracy is very precise. And their talent assessments seem hot wired to the pros that are making the decisions. Updated list comes in September.

http://www.tsn.ca/test1-1.677389
- spatso

I'll remember this next time you try and use espn rankings

Pronman is about the worst. Never able to figure out his logic. Seeds a lot of name kids, especially US kids that never make NHL. Also does not seem to understand that one huge talent (eg McDavid) can have more value than all the prospects combined from another farm.

It is my belief that nobody does the draft and prospect evaluations better than TSN. Their draft day accuracy is very precise. And their talent assessments seem hot wired to the pros that are making the decisions. Updated list comes in September.

http://www.tsn.ca/test1-1.677389
- spatso

I agree. Pronman got it wrong.


Ranking the sens 12, ahead of the leafs is idiotic.


With no prospect depth, sens should be a lot lower.

I agree. Pronman got it wrong.


Ranking the sens 12, ahead of the leafs is idiotic.


With no prospect depth, sens should be a lot lower.
- Tumbleweed

Team rankings are silly. Arizona has been top 5 for 10 years. It is the individual players ( as prospects) that matter.

Go back and redo previous drafts based on actual performance. Now, that is interesting.

Team rankings are silly. Arizona has been top 5 for 10 years. It is the individual players ( as prospects) that matter.

Go back and redo previous drafts based on actual performance. Now, that is interesting.
- spatso

didn't take long to get back to fake news

bottom line, outside of shabot, sens prospects suck ass

Pronman is about the worst. Never able to figure out his logic. Seeds a lot of name kids, especially US kids that never make NHL. Also does not seem to understand that one huge talent (eg McDavid) can have more value than all the prospects combined from another farm.

It is my belief that nobody does the draft and prospect evaluations better than TSN. Their draft day accuracy is very precise. And their talent assessments seem hot wired to the pros that are making the decisions. Updated list comes in September.

http://www.tsn.ca/test1-1.677389
- spatso

Your go to then is Button?

I am pretty sure everyone knows the Value of McDavid.
For the purpose of these lists though, Mcdavid is on them for about 45 seconds..he is not a Prospect long

Team rankings are silly. Arizona has been top 5 for 10 years. It is the individual players ( as prospects) that matter.

Go back and redo previous drafts based on actual performance. Now, that is interesting.
- spatso

Well those are 2 separate things

Ranking Past performance Vs Potential future performance

Both are done..you can do both

craig button's 1st round pick history:

2000 - Brent Krahn #9 Goalie never played a game in the NHL
2001 - Chuck Kobasew #14 RW 210 points in 601 games
2002 - Eric Nystrom #10 LW, 123 points in 593 games (and he's a -73 for his career)

That's a steaming pile by any stretch for 3 first rounders.

The guy has less credibilty than Howard Berger.

thanks @ winsix

lol @ spatso

A good start to the predictions imo

Lottowa Senators

The 6th Sens‏ @6thSens

Hypothetically, if the Isles entertain offers on Tavares, would Turris+Brown+Ceci get the Senators close?

No

lol

A good start to the predictions imo

Lottowa Senators


- senstroll

dorion's presntation to melnyk on the sens upcoming season

#sensummertalk

A good start to the predictions imo

Lottowa Senators


- senstroll

No way Vegas is that good.

No

lol
- senstroll

as a rental, kovalchuk got Niclas Bergfors, Johnny Oduya, Patrice Cormier, a 1st-round draft pick in 2010 and a 2nd-round draft pick in 2010

a package of junk prospects/players and picks.

so white, ceci, chaplik, a 1st and a 2nd would probably be close for JT purely as a rental.

but i think he stays in NY.

as a rental, kovalchuk got Niclas Bergfors, Johnny Oduya, Patrice Cormier, a 1st-round draft pick in 2010 and a 2nd-round draft pick in 2010

a package of junk prospects/players and picks.

so white, ceci, chaplik, a 1st and a 2nd would probably be close for JT purely as a rental.

but i think he stays in NY.
- Tumbleweed

No chance Tavares gets dealt as rental. Not in his interest or in the interest of the team acquiring him. My guess is if Tavares is moved we will see a 92m 8 year deal put in place before the deal is finalized.

I'll remember this next time you try and use espn rankings
- Feeling Glucky?

Or when the Leafs prospect pool is listed higher than Ottawa's. Which they were. Until last year. When four rookies made an impact at the NHL level.

No chance Tavares gets dealt as rental. Not in his interest or in the interest of the team acquiring him. My guess is if Tavares is moved we will see a 92m 8 year deal put in place before the deal is finalized.
- spatso

white, ceci, chaplik, a 1st and a 2nd is a pretty minimal price to pay for a rental of JT's quality.

really, the only thing of decent value the sens would be giving up is the 1st. everything else is junk.

though no chance JT would re-up with the sens.

craig button's 1st round pick history:

2000 - Brent Krahn #9 Goalie never played a game in the NHL
2001 - Chuck Kobasew #14 RW 210 points in 601 games
2002 - Eric Nystrom #10 LW, 123 points in 593 games (and he's a -73 for his career)

That's a steaming pile by any stretch for 3 first rounders.

The guy has less credibilty than Howard Berger.

thanks @ winsix

lol @ spatso
- Tumbleweed

That is silly. Every predraft evaluation is going to miss on some including first rounders. A much more valid question has to do with how well a team has done with the picks they have had. Look at drafts 3,4 and 5 years after the draft and that will give you a better evaluation on a team's drafting.

That is silly. Every predraft evaluation is going to miss on some including first rounders. A much more valid question has to do with how well a team has done with the picks they have had. Look at drafts 3,4 and 5 years after the draft and that will give you a better evaluation on a team's drafting.
- spatso

that is button's actual nhl draft record as gm, you donkey.

So the guy who couldn’t draft worth sh!t is now that guy that is the best at ranking prospects.

Lolololomg

thanks for the laughs spazzo.

No

lol
- senstroll

that is button's actual nhl draft record as gm, you donkey.




- Tumbleweed

don't care about button. saying you need to look at player performance 3 to 5 year post draft to fully evaluate talent choices.

I do like the TSN rankings of players over team rankings as I am not sure how teams drafting records have ever really meant very much. How many years did we watch Edmonton be ranked the top drafting team without it translating to anything on the ice. Same for Arizona