Ok. So why do you keep bringing up the past?

Leafs fans are more than willing to talk about the insanely bright future our team has, especially given the dimness that is the Sens.
- Feeling Glucky?

Because leaf fans bring up Cups from 50 years ago, and ignore the recent past.

You , and they, want it both ways.



leaf fans can speculate all they want about their teams future ........ but even they can't say what it's going to be ......... they've been doing it for fifty years, and have not gotten it right yet ........... so go ahead, keep telling us all how great the leaf are going to be .......... while Senator fans can just point at the standings from last year, and did I ever mention anything about the Senators insanely deep run in the playoffs last year?

that's still a thing? shame.

it's a waste of tax payer money to pony up for an arena when there is a perfectly good one with a good parking lot within driving distance of ottawa.
- Tumbleweed

Wow, 0 for 2 ........ you're mistaken again ......... there's no tax dollars being talked about, concerning the Senators new Arena .......But, if it did, it's would not an exception as most arenas in North America are built with some public money..............but so far as I know there been no mention of tax dollars in this project.

BTW the city of Edmonton committed more than $300 million to partner with Oilers' owner Daryl Katz, for their new Arena ................. do you have an issue with that?

summary of the last 314 pages please
- Crimsoninja

Since the inception of this thread, leaf fans, even when their team finished dead last, have deluded themselves into thinking the leafs were in the better situation .......... meanwhile the Senator have keep on finishing higher in the standing, and have made and played in the playoffs way more than the leafs..........

Since the inception of this thread, leaf fans, even when their team finished dead last, have deluded themselves into thinking the leafs were in the better situation .......... meanwhile the Senator have keep on finishing higher in the standing, and have made and played in the playoffs way more than the leafs..........
- D0PPELGANGER

Keep saying it over and over.... You may believe it soon.

Wow, 0 for 2 ........ you're mistaken again ......... there's no tax dollars being talked about, concerning the Senators new Arena .......But, if it did, it's would not an exception as most arenas in North America are built with some public money..............but so far as I know there been no mention of tax dollars in this project.

BTW the city of Edmonton committed more than $300 million to partner with Oilers' owner Daryl Katz, for their new Arena ................. do you have an issue with that?
- D0PPELGANGER

still plenty of time for mcnickelanddimeit to start begging for public money.

montreal, toronto, winnipeg, vancouver and the current sens arena didn't use public money.

it just seems odd that ottawa will get a new arena when they have one that isn't that old, relatively. but more importantly, with a better hockey market and arena ready to go, it makes a lot of sense just to move the team to quebec city. sens fans can still make the drive.

to my understanding, it will be a shorter drive to quebec city than getting of out the current arena's parking lot.

Because leaf fans bring up Cups from 50 years ago, and ignore the recent past.

You , and they, want it both ways.



leaf fans can speculate all they want about their teams future ........ but even they can't say what it's going to be ......... they've been doing it for fifty years, and have not gotten it right yet ........... so go ahead, keep telling us all how great the leaf are going to be .......... while Senator fans can just point at the standings from last year, and did I ever mention anything about the Senators insanely deep run in the playoffs last year?
- D0PPELGANGER

Sens fans: You haven't won a thing since 1967
Leafs fans: but unlike you, we did win.
Sens fans: LEAFS CAN'T LET GO OF THE PAST!!!!1!1!!


Leafs fans responding to your idiocy isn't them bringing things up.

summary of the last 314 pages please
- Crimsoninja

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- Cape Breton Bruins

How do you delete this from My Threads ???

How do you delete this from My Threads ???
- bixll

Drinking Javex might do

Drinking Javex might do
- Cape Breton Bruins

Let me know..

Let me know..
- bixll

nope its still there

nope its still there
- Cape Breton Bruins

try some more..

Since the inception of this thread, leaf fans, even when their team finished dead last, have deluded themselves into thinking the leafs were in the better situation .......... meanwhile the Senator have keep on finishing higher in the standing, and have made and played in the playoffs way more than the leafs..........
- D0PPELGANGER

There are many deluded people including those willing to put their money where their mouth is that think the Leafs are in a better situation. Unfortunately the horse you are betting on in this race is headed to the glue factory.

http://www.espn.com/chalk...tgate-las-vegas-superbook

try some more..
- bixll

I think it worked! I Can't see anything!

I think it worked! I Can't see anything!
- Cape Breton Bruins

Not you, Dopps and Spazz

I think it worked! I Can't see anything!
- Cape Breton Bruins

Excellent, Now drink some more.

Excellent, Now drink some more.
- bixll

the skunk living under my shed had a delicious bowl of antifreeze and bread. he doesnt see much anymore. or live much either for that matter.

oh my. $2.5M and 3 years for comdom.

is there room to bury condom in the ahl with hammond already there?

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- D0PPELGANGER

I’m sure Spasto is still convinced preseason matters.

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- D0PPELGANGER

you could log into thejonathans - at least his favourite team is still tied

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- D0PPELGANGER

means nothing. unless you're Spatso. how will he handle this?

leafs up 2-0 matthews both goals. price would have stoped both.

preseason matters says spatso.

You make a lot of "off ice" arguments to support your opinion as to why the leafs are in a "better position" .......... but Ottawa, for at least the recent past, have shown why they're the better NHL team in Ontario, with better regular seasons, and more playoff appearances ........... so for me, I'll take on ice success over deep pockets, the size of the fanbase and who the GM is, as measuring stick for the two teams.


To use your own words, the on ice success of the Ottawa Senators, when compared to the leafs, since the lock out, is much better ........... " Debating that is just stupid."



Yes, this could change this season, or the over the next decade......... and no one is debating that the leafs are benefiting from being a cellar dweller for a number of seasons .......... I don't think they have all the pieces in place to be considered a true Cup contender as of now, but they're moving in the right direction, and their window is opening, and hopefully for long suffering leaf fans, the leaf don't run out time before they run into Cap issues, for whatever reason.
- D0PPELGANGER

and what will you have left when that fades.

"better position" has a LOT, a (frank) of a lot, to do with off the ice stuff.

AND... the Leafs have more, and better, young talent. So, my whole argument was not based on off-ice stuff.

You can debate that if you want, you'll just end up looking stupid.

Most of your argument is in the PAST.
At least my off-ice arguments are true, today and will be tomorrow.

Because leaf fans bring up Cups from 50 years ago, and ignore the recent past.

You , and they, want it both ways.



leaf fans can speculate all they want about their teams future ........ but even they can't say what it's going to be ......... they've been doing it for fifty years, and have not gotten it right yet ........... so go ahead, keep telling us all how great the leaf are going to be .......... while Senator fans can just point at the standings from last year, and did I ever mention anything about the Senators insanely deep run in the playoffs last year?
- D0PPELGANGER

and YOU want to restrict time frames to after the last time the teams met in the playoffs... OR before the war.

So how about we just reiterate the bottom line, which is the cold hard truth,

Sens 0 cups.
Sens 0-4 vs leafs

You can cut this however you want Dopps, but those are the facts and like Spazzo likes to say, Scoreboard Matters.

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- D0PPELGANGER

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