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Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008
Mar 30 @ 9:38 PM ET
Christ you guys
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007
Mar 30 @ 9:42 PM ET
Christ you guys
- Cape Breton Bruins

We need to tubgirl this place.

How the (frank) has ek not added a "remove from my threads" button????
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010
Mar 30 @ 10:07 PM ET
Christ you guys
- Cape Breton Bruins


My non-playoff team is better than everyone else's!



Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Mar 30 @ 10:59 PM ET
Well the Leafs just caught, and passed Tampa. Once again, you were wrong.

Also, can you please update your "true standings" stats.

Thanks in advance. Much love xo
- the_cause2000




so...

true standings update?
- Schenn-Sational!





Boston...... .733
Montreal.... .612
Tampa Bay .607
Detroit...... .560

toronto... .526
Ottawa... .514
Buffalo.... .331





toronto maple leafs Playoff Chances
Did not play, playoff odds down 1.7 to 4.8%


you're welcome
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005
Mar 30 @ 11:10 PM ET

- Morris

best post made in here in ages
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006
Mar 30 @ 11:48 PM ET
Senators...
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:17 AM ET
Senators...
- rmiethaner


four points behind the leafs, with two game in hand, on the leafs (vs the Islanders) that don't matter.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:19 AM ET
four points behind the leafs, with two game in hand, on the leafs (vs the Islanders) that don't matter.
- Doppleganger
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:19 AM ET

- burn


You did not know that games in hand don't matter?



Only 3 teams in the East have less points in their last 10 games than the Bolts. The Isles, Panthers, and Sabres. Stamkos may make a difference, but one point and a couple of games in hand aren't a big difference at all right now, especially with them playing like crap.
- prock

.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:23 AM ET
You did not know that games in hand don't matter?
- Doppleganger



No one said that. Not one person.

When talking about Pts% games in hand are irrelevant.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008
Mar 31 @ 9:26 AM ET
You did not know that games in hand don't matter?
- Doppleganger

According to you, maybe.

But we understand what games in hand are, and how they're taken into account when looking at point percentage.

But maybe you're just one of those people who doesn't understand basic math.

Examples of some math problems you have trouble with:
36>23
77>48
1 1st round pick> 0 1st round picks

Keep hoping the Sens pass the Leafs though... if they do, just makes our future that much better, while you guys have nothing but some meaningless games to look forward to.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:32 AM ET
No one said that. Not one person.

When talking about Pts% games in hand are irrelevant.
- burn




Man is your head ever hard.

Vancouver currently sits 20th over and has a .520 P%
New Jersey currently sits 21th over and has a .520 P%


If you were to bet on which team was going to finish ahead of the other, at seasons end, which would you pick?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:41 AM ET
According to you, maybe.

But we understand what games in hand are, and how they're taken into account when looking at point percentage.


:
- Feeling Glucky?



Vancouver currently sits 20th over and has a .520 P%
New Jersey currently sits 21th over and has a .520 P%


If you were to bet on which team was going to finish ahead of the other, at seasons end, which would you pick?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:46 AM ET
Man is your head ever hard.

Vancouver currently sits 20th over and has a .520 P%
New Jersey currently sits 21th over and has a .520 P%


If you were to bet on which team was going to finish ahead of the other, at seasons end, which would you pick?
- Doppleganger






VAn has 6 games left (12pts).... .520pts % = 6pts =85pts total

NJD has 8 games left (16pts)..... .520pts% = 8pts = 85PTS total


Do you see how PTS % works now??

Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007
Mar 31 @ 9:46 AM ET
Vancouver currently sits 20th over and has a .520 P%
New Jersey currently sits 21th over and has a .520 P%


If you were to bet on which team was going to finish ahead of the other, at seasons end, which would you pick?
- Doppleganger

who are they each playing and when? At home or on the road? How healthy are they? What kind of streak/slump are they on? how do their skillsets match up against their opponent's skillsets?

What a silly question.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:49 AM ET

- burn




Yeah, I thought you'd leave that alone, and not prove your total incompetence.



Anyone (with a brain) would bet on the Devils, because they have two games in hand, on the Canucks.


Just looking at the P% alone, did not tell you that did it?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:51 AM ET
who are they each playing and when? At home or on the road? How healthy are they? What kind of streak/slump are they on? how do their skillsets match up against their opponent's skillsets?

What a silly question.
- Morris



Why didn't you bring up "games in hand" if any???

Now who looks silly?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:55 AM ET
Yeah, I thought you'd leave that alone, and not prove your total incompetence.



Anyone (with a brain) would bet on the Devils, because they have two games in hand, on the Canucks.


Just looking at the P% alone, did not tell you that did it?

- Doppleganger






Check again.


Why would anyone with a brain pick NJD?? jsut because he have more games doesn't mean they automatically wins those games.

You're not going to consider who each plays and when and any b2b??

If they both play 0.520 hockey for their remaining games they are even.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:55 AM ET
Why didn't you bring up "games in hand" if any???

Now who looks silly?
- Doppleganger



Check the mirror.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Mar 31 @ 9:56 AM ET
Yeah, I thought you'd leave that alone, and not prove your total incompetence.



Anyone (with a brain) would bet on the Devils, because they have two games in hand, on the Canucks.


Just looking at the P% alone, did not tell you that did it?

- Doppleganger










VAn has 6 games left (12pts).... .520pts % = 6pts =85pts total

NJD has 8 games left (16pts)..... .520pts% = 8pts = 85PTS total


Do you see how PTS % works now??
- burn
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006
Mar 31 @ 10:12 AM ET

- burn




Oh my dear hard headed friend.

your mighty leafs have proven the fact that teams DON"T play at their current P% rate.


Back on March 14th the leafs had a .588 P%.

Did they continue to play at that rate?

Let me make it easy for you.........No they did not, they've played at a stunning .000 P% rate since then, and today at a .526 P%.

All the other teams that passed then all had a game, or games in hand on the leafs, and made it that much easier to pass them, because they had more chances to win points (before the end of the season) than the leafs did from March 14th onward.


Why don't the leaf control their own future, in their pursuit of the final wild-card spot currently held by the Blue Jackets?

Well, the "Magic Number" for the Blue Jackets to eliminate the leafs from the playoffs is 10.

The Blue Jackets can eliminate the leafs, all on their own by accumulating 10 points in their remaining 8 games, two more games than the leafs have left to play.





At this time of the season, games remaining are a "Plus" and when ALL the Sports networks show you the current standing, they ALL list the games remaining.


Man, what a hard head.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007
Mar 31 @ 10:42 AM ET
I liked the Leaf's game most of this year. They play a good brand of hockey, exciting to watch. But, they made some unfortunate choices last year. They made poor decions in regard to buying out contracts and letting the wrong guys walk. They have some really tough choices in the upcoming season.

Hard to imagine there being a contending team without a true #1 center or #1 D.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008
Mar 31 @ 11:03 AM ET
I liked the Leaf's game most of this year. They play a good brand of hockey, exciting to watch. But, they made some unfortunate choices last year. They made poor decions in regard to buying out contracts and letting the wrong guys walk. They have some really tough choices in the upcoming season.

Hard to imagine there being a contending team without a true #1 center or #1 D.
- spatso


what?
they played most of the game in their own end ..was a horrible season to watch the leafs
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
Mar 31 @ 11:34 AM ET
Oh my dear hard headed friend.

your mighty leafs have proven the fact that teams DON"T play at their current P% rate.


Back on March 14th the leafs had a .588 P%.

Did they continue to play at that rate?

Let me make it easy for you.........No they did not, they've played at a stunning .000 P% rate since then, and today at a .526 P%.

All the other teams that passed then all had a game, or games in hand on the leafs, and made it that much easier to pass them, because they had more chances to win points (before the end of the season) than the leafs did from March 14th onward.


Why don't the leaf control their own future, in their pursuit of the final wild-card spot currently held by the Blue Jackets?

Well, the "Magic Number" for the Blue Jackets to eliminate the leafs from the playoffs is 10.

The Blue Jackets can eliminate the leafs, all on their own by accumulating 10 points in their remaining 8 games, two more games than the leafs have left to play.





At this time of the season, games remaining are a "Plus" and when ALL the Sports networks show you the current standing, they ALL list the games remaining.


Man, what a hard head.

- Doppleganger



So you use Pts% to show something.... but it's useless and teams wont play at that level??

Are you arguing against yourself?? Trying to prove yourself wrong??
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007
Mar 31 @ 11:44 AM ET
Why didn't you bring up "games in hand" if any???

Now who looks silly?
- Doppleganger

The implication was that even if the games in hand were different, that factor alone should not indicate to anyone who's bound to finish higher or lower.
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