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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Feb 15 @ 12:12 AM ET
I believe they can.
- Feeling Glucky?



I don't know what you are smoking...........have you looked at the standings lately?

The Rangers are 14 points ahead of the leafs..................there is no way in hell that the leafs will finish ahead of them with only 21 games remaining.

I doubt they will even catch the Hurricanes.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 15 @ 12:40 AM ET
I don't know what you are smoking...........have you looked at the standings lately?

The Rangers are 14 points ahead of the leafs..................there is no way in hell that the leafs will finish ahead of them with only 21 games remaining.

I doubt they will even catch the Hurricanes.

- Doppleganger

Well, I don't back down from my predictions, and I admit when I'm wrong...(like predicting Buffalo to be bottom of the north east )... so we'll see at season's end.
FirstClass
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 03.06.2009

Feb 15 @ 6:18 AM ET
wow so boston is going to get the 2nd overall pick, noway TO catches the canes
Leafy_84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 12.29.2008

Feb 15 @ 3:16 PM ET
wow so boston is going to get the 2nd overall pick, noway TO catches the canes
- FirstClass


Don't forget there is still 20+ games left in the season...plenty of time for the Oilers to pass the Leafs and put them dead last. Even if they don't there is still the lottery that can give the Bruins the 1st overall pick.

Things are definitely looking up...for Boston. Things couldn't be any worse for the Leafs. All. Time. Low.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 15 @ 5:47 PM ET
Don't forget there is still 20+ games left in the season...plenty of time for the Oilers to pass the Leafs and put them dead last. Even if they don't there is still the lottery that can give the Bruins the 1st overall pick.

Things are definitely looking up...for Boston. Things couldn't be any worse for the Leafs. All. Time. Low.

- Leafy_84


Things are looking up for Boston because of the draft pick, but this season is turning out to be a big bust for them.
FirstClass
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 03.06.2009

Feb 15 @ 6:04 PM ET
Things are looking up for Boston because of the draft pick, but this season is turning out to be a big bust for them.
- RogerRoeper

they are in playoff position, and are going to add seguin or hall next year
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 15 @ 7:19 PM ET
they are in playoff position, and are going to add seguin or hall next year
- FirstClass


In a playoff position..barely. They were suppose to be in the top 3 at least in the conference and a cup contender.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 15 @ 8:35 PM ET
In a playoff position..barely. They were suppose to be in the top 3 at least in the conference and a cup contender.
- RogerRoeper



Roger, Roger, you cannot try to make a positive for the Leafs by trying to assert a negative for the Bruins.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 15 @ 8:43 PM ET
Roger, Roger, you cannot try to make a positive for the Leafs by trying to assert a negative for the Bruins.
- spatso


And vice versa.
wendelclark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.20.2009

Feb 15 @ 11:12 PM ET
In a playoff position..barely. They were suppose to be in the top 3 at least in the conference and a cup contender.
- RogerRoeper


I dont really see how people are finding a way to bash this comment. It is 100% true.

The trade was backwards for both teams. When you are supose to be a contender for the cup, you dont trade your top goal scorer. When you are rebuilding you dont trade your 1st round picks. But apparently, only the leafs can make a bad move.

As far as the bruins expectations for the season, it is a failure thus far, and baring any major move at the deadline, it will be, for the short term, as bad as a trade for the bruins as it is the leafs.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 15 @ 11:23 PM ET
I dont really see how people are finding a way to bash this comment. It is 100% true.

The trade was backwards for both teams. When you are supose to be a contender for the cup, you dont trade your top goal scorer. When you are rebuilding you dont trade your 1st round picks. But apparently, only the leafs can make a bad move.

As far as the bruins expectations for the season, it is a failure thus far, and baring any major move at the deadline, it will be, for the short term, as bad as a trade for the bruins as it is the leafs.

- wendelclark


Exactly. People act like everything is so rosy for the Bruins. They look so much further from a contender that they did last season. Virtually everyone, aside from Bergeron, has taken a step back. And they now find themselves already trying to dump Thomas in year 1 of his contract.

Ok, so they'll get a good young player or two from the Leafs, they've still lost Kessel, have cap problems, Chara may leave after next season, and Savard may already be at the point where he's passing-his-prime. Oh and they're paying a 3rd liner 4.15 million next season.

So they kept and re-signed two mid 30's guys, and traded the 21 year-old. We'll see how that turns out for them.
hello_there
Joined: 08.12.2006

Feb 15 @ 11:27 PM ET
I dont really see how people are finding a way to bash this comment. It is 100% true.

The trade was backwards for both teams. When you are supose to be a contender for the cup, you dont trade your top goal scorer. When you are rebuilding you dont trade your 1st round picks. But apparently, only the leafs can make a bad move.

As far as the bruins expectations for the season, it is a failure thus far, and baring any major move at the deadline, it will be, for the short term, as bad as a trade for the bruins as it is the leafs.

- wendelclark

The Bruins may very well finish 5 or 6 in the East, that's very far from a failure. A disappointment, yeah maybe... depending on what they do come playoffs... but a failure? C'mon.

Considering the fact that Matt Duchene is already a better player than Phil Kessel, I think the Bruins are still very happy about that trade.
hello_there
Joined: 08.12.2006

Feb 15 @ 11:29 PM ET
And they now find themselves already trying to dump Thomas in year 1 of his contract.
- RogerRoeper

Thanks to the Leafs again.

Tuukka Rask kicks ass.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=4958

Boston Bruins traded Andrew Raycroft to the Toronto Maple Leafs for Tuukka Rask.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 15 @ 11:29 PM ET
The Bruins may very well finish 5 or 6 in the East, that's very far from a failure. A disappointment, yeah maybe... depending on what they do come playoffs... but a failure? C'mon.

Considering the fact that Matt Duchene is already a better player than Phil Kessel, I think the Bruins are still very happy about that trade.

- hello_there


Yeah well different draft. The #1 pick isn't better than Kessel. We'll see who they get.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 15 @ 11:30 PM ET
Thanks to the Leafs again.

Tuukka Rask kicks ass.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=4958

- hello_there


Is this suppose to be news to me? I hated that trade since the moment it happened. I've never once justified it. Manny Legace should have been signed for nothing as a veteren "Stop-Gap".

That doesn't change the fact that the contract of Tomas' is a big problem for the Bruins.
hello_there
Joined: 08.12.2006

Feb 15 @ 11:32 PM ET
The #1 pick isn't better than Kessel.
- RogerRoeper

Funny.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 15 @ 11:33 PM ET
Funny.
- hello_there


He is? So you can say Duchense is playing better, but I can't point out Tavares isn't playing better?
hello_there
Joined: 08.12.2006

Feb 15 @ 11:43 PM ET
He is? So you can say Duchense is playing better, but I can't point out Tavares isn't playing better?
- RogerRoeper

True.
I thought you meant Taylor Hall.
Still, everyone would take JT over Kessel.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 15 @ 11:52 PM ET
True.
Still, everyone would take JT over Kessel.

- hello_there


Yes they would.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Feb 16 @ 12:54 AM ET
Yeah well different draft. The #1 pick isn't better than Kessel. We'll see who they get.
- RogerRoeper


It's TWO first picks and a second. All three combined may work out better for the Bruins than Kessel will for the leafs...............but it's to early to tell.........have to wait until the three picks make their mark in the NHL.

Oh yeah..........Boston had cap issues and had no choice but to deal away Kessel........so they are happy with the deal.
FirstClass
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 03.06.2009

Feb 16 @ 2:18 AM ET
In a playoff position..barely. They were suppose to be in the top 3 at least in the conference and a cup contender.
- RogerRoeper

you are being ridiculous......a playoff contender with a top 3 pick, trading kessel was a temporary setback but his inconsistency is a big problem

either way you trying to change the subject is ridiculous
wendelclark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.20.2009

Feb 16 @ 8:11 AM ET
The Bruins may very well finish 5 or 6 in the East, that's very far from a failure. A disappointment, yeah maybe... depending on what they do come playoffs... but a failure? C'mon.

Considering the fact that Matt Duchene is already a better player than Phil Kessel, I think the Bruins are still very happy about that trade.

- hello_there


That is true, they can move up, however as easily as they can move up...they can fall. And my point was that considering the expecations of the team, the season, thus far, has been a failure. That may change come playoff time, but for now, a team that was supose to be a force in the east, has been more of a bubble team. But if you want to wait till the end of the playoffs to label it a dissapointment or failure, thats fine.


Oh yeah..........Boston had cap issues and had no choice but to deal away Kessel........so they are happy with the deal.

- Doppleganger


No, Boston created their own cap issues. They made their choices in who to keep. if they wanted to they 100% could have kept kessel. But they made their choice, and it did hurt them in the short term. I supose it was a win-win for them, they have to deal their top goal scorer but get a couple high ranked draft picks.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 16 @ 12:10 PM ET
you are being ridiculous......a playoff contender with a top 3 pick, trading kessel was a temporary setback but his inconsistency is a big problem

either way you trying to change the subject is ridiculous

- FirstClass


Kessel's inconsistentcy is a big problem? What about Krejci/Wheeler/Lucic? You know, the guys the Bruins liked better and kept. Kessel is doing much better than any of them.

And how am I changing the subject? Isn't it fair to talk about the Bruins? They've gone from second best GF to dead last. I don't see this as just a minor blip.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 16 @ 12:11 PM ET


Oh yeah..........Boston had cap issues and had no choice but to deal away Kessel........so they are happy with the deal.

- Doppleganger


Boston clearly created their own cap problems.
Big T
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Please ref, please I am beggin, BC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Feb 16 @ 4:18 PM ET
I dont really see how people are finding a way to bash this comment. It is 100% true.

The trade was backwards for both teams. When you are supose to be a contender for the cup, you dont trade your top goal scorer. When you are rebuilding you dont trade your 1st round picks. But apparently, only the leafs can make a bad move.

As far as the bruins expectations for the season, it is a failure thus far, and baring any major move at the deadline, it will be, for the short term, as bad as a trade for the bruins as it is the leafs.

- wendelclark


I think both teams might like to recind the deal right now.. Boston certainly overachieved last year as most players had career years, thus too high expectations this season.. With Savard, Lucic and Thomas showing thier true colours, the Bruins are basically having to rebuild without having to actually tank, although tanking could provide them with two top 5 picks.
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