Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
|
|
|
You also have to factor in Dougie Hamilton. It's not a Seguin vs Kessel issue.
I've heard more reasons for Kessel not to sign with toronto and becoming a UFA, but it's all just speculation right now, but if he's not signed by this time next year, I would highly suspect he's going to become an UFA. - Doppleganger
He and his agent have both been very clear about him wanting to stay in Toronto. It's not a huge concern. |
|
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
|
|
|
He and his agent have both been very clear about him wanting to stay in Toronto. It's not a huge concern. - Feeling Glucky?
People also said Lupul was as good as gone once Carlyle was hired as Leafs coach. and he couldn't have re-signed faster. I would be surprised if Kessel leaves. The best financial deal will be in Toronto. |
|
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers |
|
|
Location: BiggButtz Joined: 03.11.2010
|
|
|
He and his agent have both been very clear about him wanting to stay in Toronto. It's not a huge concern. - Feeling Glucky?
Im sure they would come right out and say if he wanted to leave, because that happens all the time. |
|
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
|
|
|
Im sure they would come right out and say if he wanted to leave, because that happens all the time. - sanfordnson
Wasn't Lupul on his way out?
Money will be the most important factor. The most money is in Toronto.
I've heard Kessel would like a more pressure-filled market to play in. Yet in 09', Nasvhille wanted him and he said no.
My prediction? In the summer of 2013', Nonis offers Kessel a huge 8 year extension, and he re-signs immediately. |
|
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers |
|
|
Location: BiggButtz Joined: 03.11.2010
|
|
|
Wasn't Lupul on his way out?
Money will be the most important factor.
I've heard Kessel would like a more pressure-filled market to play in. Yet in 09', Nasvhille wanted him and he said no. - RogerRoeper
Lol, I think Lupul kind of knew a good thing when he saw it. Same as Horcoff. |
|
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
|
|
|
Lol, I think Lupul kind of knew a good thing when he saw it. Same as Horcoff. - sanfordnson
Only saying, I heard from so many people Lupul was gone once Carlyle was hired. That did not happen. He re-signed so fast instead,
AS long as an 8 year extension is offered, Kessel re-signs imo. |
|
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers |
|
|
Location: BiggButtz Joined: 03.11.2010
|
|
|
Only saying, I heard from so many people Lupul was gone once Carlyle was hired. That did not happen. He re-signed so fast instead,
AS long as an 8 year extension is offered, Kessel re-signs imo. - RogerRoeper
Im just funnin Billy-nilly. As always, only time will really tell. |
|
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
|
|
|
Im sure they would come right out and say if he wanted to leave, because that happens all the time. - sanfordnson
Stupid argument, every time it's made.
Nobody says they want to leave. But guys who want to leave don't often come out and say how much they want to stay. |
|
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
|
|
Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
|
|
|
People also said Lupul was as good as gone once Carlyle was hired as Leafs coach. and he couldn't have re-signed faster. I would be surprised if Kessel leaves. The best financial deal will be in Toronto. - RogerRoeper
Please explain why you think " The best financial deal will be in Toronto."?
Before Kessel's contract expires the leafs have to decide on about 5 UFAs and about 8 RFAs.
How could anyone possibly know the leafs Sap space going into Kessels final year?
There definitely will be other teams with way more cap space, as toronto has never been near the bottom of the league when it comes to spending on player's salaries.
Also there are 5 more UFAs and 2 RFAs that toronto may want to keep under contract at the same time Kessel's deal is up. So how anyone can say it's going to be a slam dunk to keep Kessel in toronto because they can offer the best deal, to me is quite a long stretch.
|
|
gretzky
Edmonton Oilers |
|
Joined: 07.21.2009
|
|
|
Only saying, I heard from so many people Lupul was gone once Carlyle was hired. That did not happen. He re-signed so fast instead,
AS long as an 8 year extension is offered, Kessel re-signs imo. - RogerRoeper
Signing Phil Kessel to a big money deal until he is 35 years old sounds like a harmless idea..... what could possibly go wrong? |
|
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
|
|
|
Signing Phil Kessel to a big money deal until he is 35 years old sounds like a harmless idea..... what could possibly go wrong? - gretzky
New CBA restricts this so, I guess it doesn't much matter?? |
|
gretzky
Edmonton Oilers |
|
Joined: 07.21.2009
|
|
|
New CBA restricts this so, I guess it doesn't much matter?? - burn
No it doesn't.
8 year deals allowed if player re-signs with current team.
RogerRoper was saying the Leafs will sign him for the full 8 years at "the most money he will get from any team"
Phil will be 27 in the season his new contract kicks in making him 34 when the contract expires.
I personally think signing any player that's in their prime "now" to a big money 8 year deal is dumb. By year 5 (age 32) the player will likely have regressed from the player they are now and you will still be paying them "star money".. |
|
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
|
|
|
No it doesn't.
8 year deals allowed if player re-signs with current team. - gretzky
Yup, which gets him to 35??
|
|
gretzky
Edmonton Oilers |
|
Joined: 07.21.2009
|
|
|
Yup, which gets him to 35?? - burn
34 sorry |
|
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
|
|
|
34 sorry - gretzky
Signing Phil Kessel to a big money deal until he is 35 years old sounds like a harmless idea..... what could possibly go wrong? - gretzky
8 years take him to 33, so neither is right. move along.
EDIT: makes him 34 at the end. |
|
gretzky
Edmonton Oilers |
|
Joined: 07.21.2009
|
|
|
8 years take him to 33, so neither is right. move along. - burn
No.
He is 25 now.
26 next year (last year on current deal)
27 first year of deal
28 2nd year
29 3rd year
30 4th year
31 5th year
32 6th year
33 7th year
34 8th year
IMO signing Kessel to what RogerRoper said (More money than any team would offer as a UFA) for any more than a few years (5 max) is complete cap suicide down the road. |
|
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
|
|
|
No.
He is 25 now.
26 next year (last year on current deal)
27 first year of deal
28 2nd year
29 3rd year
30 4th year
31 5th year
32 6th year
33 7th year
34 8th year
IMO signing Kessel to what RogerRoper said (More money than any team would offer as a UFA) for any more than a few years (5 max) is complete cap suicide down the road. - gretzky
It's not cap suicide to sign good players.... and you don't know what other team would pay. Is Suter and PArise worth what they got??
I don't see where he said a $number, only a length. |
|
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
|
|
|
No it doesn't.
8 year deals allowed if player re-signs with current team.
RogerRoper was saying the Leafs will sign him for the full 8 years at "the most money he will get from any team"
Phil will be 27 in the season his new contract kicks in making him 34 when the contract expires.
I personally think signing any player that's in their prime "now" to a big money 8 year deal is dumb. By year 5 (age 32) the player will likely have regressed from the player they are now and you will still be paying them "star money".. - gretzky
What's wrong with signing Phil till he's 34? He hasn't missed a game for the Leafs since starting with them, and since he doesn't get very physical. I expect him to be very good into his 30's. I'd rather sign him till he's 34 than someone like Lucic. |
|
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
|
|
|
New CBA restricts this so, I guess it doesn't much matter?? - burn
The Leafs can sign Phil for 8 years. That's allowed. Every other team would be a 7 year max. deal. |
|
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
|
|
|
Please explain why you think "The best financial deal will be in Toronto."?
Before Kessel's contract expires the leafs have to decide on about 5 UFAs and about 8 RFAs.
How could anyone possibly know the leafs Sap space going into Kessels final year?
There definitely will be other teams with way more cap space, as toronto has never been near the bottom of the league when it comes to spending on player's salaries.
Also there are 5 more UFAs and 2 RFAs that toronto may want to keep under contract at the same time Kessel's deal is up. So how anyone can say it's going to be a slam dunk to keep Kessel in toronto because they can offer the best deal, to me is quite a long stretch. - Doppleganger
The Leafs cap situation is very good. And since they can give Phil a longer deal than anyone else, it's safe to say his best financial deal is in Toronto.
Toronto has about 25+ million in cap space going into next summer. They are one of the teams in the best cap situation. |
|
gretzky
Edmonton Oilers |
|
Joined: 07.21.2009
|
|
|
It's not cap suicide to sign good players.... and you don't know what other team would pay. Is Suter and PArise worth what they got??
I don't see where he said a $number, only a length. - burn
He mentioned earlier the Leafs would offer him the most lucrative contract as a UFA |
|
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
|
|
|
He mentioned earlier the Leafs would offer him the most lucrative contract as a UFA - gretzky
If they're giving one more year, yes it will likely be. |
|
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
|
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
|
|
|
He mentioned earlier the Leafs would offer him the most lucrative contract as a UFA - gretzky
Because the leafs are the only ones that can offer 8 years. |
|
spatso
Ottawa Senators |
|
Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
|
|
|
Because the leafs are the only ones that can offer 8 years. - burn
Why would anyone give him a max contract if he continues his on scoring slump?
|
|
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
|
Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
|
|
|
Why would anyone give him a max contract if he continues his on scoring slump? - spatso
Because he doesn't just score goals. |
|
Page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120 Next |