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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 5 @ 11:36 AM ET
I'm against roving rape gangs, obviously.

Am I to understand though that your point is that you can't be against roving rape gangs and still welcome immigration from muslim nations?

- Morris



In Britain, they've found out the hard way, you can't have one without the other............so would you allow what has happened in Britain to happen here?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
Yea, rape gangs should be stopped, regardless of if they're muslim or not.

Gang rape also isn't something that's acceptable in islam. Criminals hiding behind religion are still criminals.

Interesting that you see the natural result of immigration as the and formation of rape gangs. There's a word for people who share your mindset.


PS- No insults from my end. Just logical conclusions drawn from the things you say. If you find that insulting, maybe it's time for some self-reflection?

- Feeling Glucky?




But the rape gangs are not being stopped in Britain. The Police have abandoned patrolling and enforcing the law in these neighbourhoods. The Rape gangs are raping muslim and non muslim women who choose NOT conform to Shariah law.


Murder is not acceptable in Christian religions, bu that does not stop it from happening.

IF Britain had stopped the immigration of those with a predisposition to bring shariah law with them years ago............then perhaps they would have avoided the decay of society that they're going through right now.

If instead they had encouraged immigration from the Democracies that I listed earlier, and not allowed a large influx from those countries that they actually did.............then there would be no rape gangs.




burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
But the rape gangs are not being stopped in Britain. The Police have abandoned patrolling and enforcing the law in these neighbourhoods. The Rape gangs are raping muslim and non muslim women who choose NOT conform to Shariah law.


Murder is not acceptable in Christian religions, bu that does not stop it from happening.

IF Britain had stopped the immigration of those with a predisposition to bring shariah law with them years ago............then perhaps they would have avoided the decay of society that they're going through right now.

If instead they had encouraged immigration from the Democracies that I listed earlier, and not allowed a large influx from those countries that they actually did.............then there would be no rape gangs.

- Doppleganger



Not racist?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 5 @ 11:49 AM ET
I think this talk should be moved to the rape/race section and we can get back to talking about the leafs
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 5 @ 11:51 AM ET
Not racist?
- burn



which race do you allege is being insulted?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 5 @ 11:58 AM ET
which race do you allege is being insulted?
- Doppleganger



spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 5 @ 12:01 PM ET
So, how many points will the Senators finish ahead of the Leafs again this year?

I am guessing this is one of the few years that the Leafs will pull the the plug early and try and gather draft picks for next year. There are some elite talents in the top 15 and outstanding players all the way through the first round.

Leafs will give up a lot of goals.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Sep 5 @ 12:17 PM ET
So, how many points will the Senators finish ahead of the Leafs again this year?

I am guessing this is one of the few years that the Leafs will pull the the plug early and try and gather draft picks for next year. There are some elite talents in the top 15 and outstanding players all the way through the first round.

Leafs will give up a lot of goals.

- spatso

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anticipating either team to be good, but I'd say Leafs and Sens are a pretty tight race this year.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 5 @ 12:31 PM ET
So, how many points will the Senators finish ahead of the Leafs again this year?

I am guessing this is one of the few years that the Leafs will pull the the plug early and try and gather draft picks for next year. There are some elite talents in the top 15 and outstanding players all the way through the first round.

Leafs will give up a lot of goals.

- spatso



welcome back, long time no read............finally some common sense from leaf fan.

I'm not willing to bet on the Senators finishing ahead of the leafs this season just yet..............waiting to see how UFA's signing work out, or not.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 5 @ 12:32 PM ET
So, how many points will the Senators finish ahead of the Leafs again this year?

I am guessing this is one of the few years that the Leafs will pull the the plug early and try and gather draft picks for next year. There are some elite talents in the top 15 and outstanding players all the way through the first round.

Leafs will give up a lot of goals.

- spatso



Sens are horsepoop and going nowhere.

Unless you count Bobby Ryan. He's going somewhere alright.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 5 @ 12:35 PM ET
which race do you allege is being insulted?
- Doppleganger



Racist, Xenophobic, religion-based hatred/bigotry/prejudice, who really cares what you want to label your idiocy and ignorance?
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
Sens are horsepoop and going nowhere.

Unless you count Bobby Ryan. He's going somewhere alright.

- prock



Won't you look foolish when he signs with Ottawa.

He was saying a few days ago that playing in Philadelphia may not be to his liking, and he lives in Idaho now anyways, in the off-season, not his hometown in the Philly area.


But until he signs, or refuses and is traded then I'm not going to make a prediction on where the Senators finish in relationship to the leafs, and I don't see neither team a sure bet to make the playoffs either.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Sep 5 @ 12:39 PM ET
Racist, Xenophobic, religion-based hatred/bigotry/prejudice, who really cares what you want to label your idiocy and ignorance?
- prock



nice to see you're in favour of eroding and changing the Canadian culture along the lines of what is happening in Britain, for the past ten years.



I for One, am interesting in preserving a the Superior Canadian culture, and not importing any crap from locations on Earth that practise cultures from the middle ages.






THIS, from someone so far on the left
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Sep 5 @ 1:07 PM ET
Sens are horsepoop and going nowhere.

Unless you count Bobby Ryan. He's going somewhere alright.

- prock

I certainly don't see the Sens as clearly out ahead of the Leafs.

If healthy, the leafs forwards are better, even if you call the top lines a wash.

Karlsson is a really solid contributor for the sens, but the leafs 2-6 has the sens 2-6 firmly beat.

Anderson-Lehner are like Bernier-Reimer : good tandem goaltending.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 5 @ 1:12 PM ET
So, how many points will the Senators finish ahead of the Leafs again this year?

I am guessing this is one of the few years that the Leafs will pull the the plug early and try and gather draft picks for next year. There are some elite talents in the top 15 and outstanding players all the way through the first round.

Leafs will give up a lot of goals.

- spatso



the sens gave up a lot of goals last season ..have the sens done anything to improve that? Or is it just hope Anderson is back to .940?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 5 @ 1:26 PM ET
the sens gave up a lot of goals last season ..have the sens done anything to improve that? Or is it just hope Anderson is back to .940?
- senstroll


They’ll have to hope they don’t manage to stay healthy to the point of least man games lost to injury in the entire league again as well.

I’d say, if I’m an optimist, if they stay the healthiest team in the league again, Anderson puts up .940, all of their players put up career highs, and they trade their first for deadline help again, they could be a bubble team.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 5 @ 2:15 PM ET
They’ll have to hope they don’t manage to stay healthy to the point of least man games lost to injury in the entire league again as well.

I’d say, if I’m an optimist, if they stay the healthiest team in the league again, Anderson puts up .940, all of their players put up career highs, and they trade their first for deadline help again, they could be a bubble team.

- prock
Meh ,we have some question marks for sure but who in the east doesnt
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Sep 5 @ 2:31 PM ET
Meh ,we have some question marks for sure but who in the east doesnt
- top shelf 15

There's only a few teams that don't have question marks, period. Even for excellent rosters like Pittsburgh's injuries are a concern.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 6 @ 8:55 AM ET
There's only a few teams that don't have question marks, period. Even for excellent rosters like Pittsburgh's injuries are a concern.
- Morris
Yep the East has, nothing on the west .If you look at the west,s second tier group of teams ,say Dal,Min,SJ etc.VRS teams such as MON,NY,pitts whom are considered contenders from the east .Its not even close
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
Turris had a monster year last year. Ottawa scored at 3.61 (GF for 60 minutes) when he was on the ice. He was 7th among all centers (playing 50 games or more). Spezza was 20th among all centers with a 3.21 rate for team goals per 60 minutes played. But, Spezza was absolutely last (162nd) among all centers giving up 4.15 goals against per 60 minutes of ice time.

Bozak had a great team goals for rate per 60 minutes played among all centers. He was 3.70, 2nd best among all NHL centers. But, his goals against was 3.26 per 60 (155th among all centers).

Of the top centers (GF per 60), Krejci had the best goal differential at 1.89 between GF less GA per 60 minutes. Getslaf was best in goals for per 60 minutes at 4.06.

Krejci. 3.54 - 1.65. (1.89)
Bergeron. 3.63 - 1.76. (1.87)
Kopitar. 3.14 - 1.39. (1.75)
Getslaf. 4.06 - 2.32. (1.72)
Turris. 3.61 - 2.23. (1.38)
Couture. 3.62 - 2.33. (1.29)
Toews. 3.69 - 2.44. (1.25)
Thornton. 3.55 - 2.42. (1.13)
Malkin. 3.66 - 2.57. (1.09)
Seguin. 3.55 - 2.49. (1.06)

Others of interest.

Crosby. 3.53 - 2.52. (1.01)

Giroux. 3.31. - 2.68. (0.63)

Bozak. 3.70 - 3.26. (0.44)

Tavares. 3.27 - 3.33. (-0.06)

Kadri. 2.66. - 3.04. (-0.38)

Spezza. 3.21.- 4.14. (-0.94)
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
Turris had a monster year last year. Ottawa scored at 3.61 (GF for 60 minutes) when he was on the ice. He was 7th among all centers (playing 50 games or more). Spezza was 20th among all centers with a 3.21 rate for team goals per 60 minutes played. But, Spezza was absolutely last (162nd) among all centers giving up 4.15 goals against per 60 minutes of ice time.

Bozak had a great team goals for rate per 60 minutes played among all centers. He was 3.70, 2nd best among all NHL centers. But, his goals against was 3.26 per 60 (155th among all centers).

Of the top centers (GF per 60), Krejci had the best goal differential at 1.89 between GF less GA per 60 minutes. Getslaf was best in goals for per 60 minutes at 4.06.

Krejci. 3.54 - 1.65. (1.89)
Bergeron. 3.63 - 1.76. (1.87)
Kopitar. 3.14 - 1.39. (1.75)
Getslaf. 4.06 - 2.32. (1.72)
Turris. 3.61 - 2.23. (1.38)
Couture. 3.62 - 2.33. (1.29)
Toews. 3.69 - 2.44. (1.25)
Thornton. 3.55 - 2.42. (1.13)
Malkin. 3.66 - 2.57. (1.09)
Seguin. 3.55 - 2.49. (1.06)

Others of interest.

Crosby. 3.53 - 2.52. (1.01)

Giroux. 3.31. - 2.68. (0.63)

Bozak. 3.70 - 3.26. (0.44)

Tavares. 3.27 - 3.33. (-0.06)

Kadri. 2.66. - 3.04. (-0.38)

Spezza. 3.21.- 4.14. (-0.94)

- spatso

He'll be a great 2nd/3rd line center on a contender, when Melnyk refuses to pony up for another extension.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 6 @ 4:41 PM ET
He'll be a great 2nd/3rd line center on a contender, when Melnyk refuses to pony up for another extension.
- Feeling Glucky?


I would imagine that Eugene is long gone before Turris. Perhaps not as long as Dion stays on his retirement contract with the Leafs. I guess they had no takers in their attempts to give him away this summer. Maybe they will have more luck trying to move Clarkson at the deadline.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 6 @ 4:53 PM ET
I would imagine that Eugene is long gone before Turris. Perhaps not as long as Dion stays on his retirement contract with the Leafs. I guess they had no takers in their attempts to give him away this summer. Maybe they will have more luck trying to move Clarkson at the deadline.
- spatso

Retirement contract? Hell be 33 or something like that at the end of the contract. Man you're stupid.

Eugene ain't going anywhere. There is no reason to think so. You've been yapping about it for over a year now, and you've been proving yourself an idiot the entire time. Wishful thinking because you know the sens are stuck as a have not team.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 6 @ 6:33 PM ET
Retirement contract? Hell be 33 or something like that at the end of the contract. Man you're stupid.

Eugene ain't going anywhere. There is no reason to think so. You've been yapping about it for over a year now, and you've been proving yourself an idiot the entire time. Wishful thinking because you know the sens are stuck as a have not team.

- prock


Really.

The Senators have the third highest broadcast revenues in the NHL.

Melnyk clearly has financial problems separate from the Senators. No doubt the Senators have a Melnyk problem. Something I called long before most people were prepared to recognize it.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 7:33 PM ET
Really.

The Senators have the third highest broadcast revenues in the NHL.

Melnyk clearly has financial problems separate from the Senators. No doubt the Senators have a Melnyk problem. Something I called long before most people were prepared to recognize it.

- spatso

You still forgot to update your favourite team settings... I guess subconsciously you know the Leafs are in a better position and want to be ready to jump back on the bandwagon at any moment.

In any case... Melnyk's more than likely just fine financially, and is happily milking the Sens and their 3rd highest broadcast revenues(source, btw?), for everything he can... in which case, I doubt he'll leave any time soon.
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