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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 12 @ 6:50 PM ET
Do you have the faith that Shanahan, with zero management experience (before hired by leafs), zero scouting experience is the guy that's going to see this through???

JFJ tried to do it, and veered off course and so did Burke, and he too did not follow though with his stated plan.

- Doppleganger



What does this matter?? I think it's more important that the guys that are scouting and such are good at scouting. What on earth does shanny not having scouting experience have anything to do with anything??

And to the 2nd point, neither one of the mentioned GM said they were doing a teardown rebuild, and the ownership at the time had said no to the idea. Burke out and out said he'd never do that, and JFJ said that's what he wanted to do, but was rebuffed by management.

I think you're out to lunch as usual here.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 12 @ 6:54 PM ET
Both of those GMs said that'r what they were going to do.................but did not.

Did I even mention Dubas or Hunter? So either of them have any NHL scouting experience?

- Doppleganger



false.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 12 @ 7:05 PM ET
Burke made it clear from the start ownership wanted a quick retool.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:56 PM ET
Both of those GMs said that'r what they were going to do.................but did not.

Did I even mention Dubas or Hunter? So either of them have any NHL scouting experience?

- Doppleganger

Neither did, so, you're wrong. And insisting on showing it.

Neither have NHL experience, but have plenty of knowledge about the players in the next few drafts.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:33 PM ET
Zibby is a -3 so far tonight.

Bust?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:53 PM ET
Zibby is a -3 so far tonight.

Bust?

- Feeling Glucky?

Still a -3, despite the senators rallying to get a meaningless point.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Feb 13 @ 12:05 AM ET
Still a -3, despite the senators rallying to get a meaningless point.
- Feeling Glucky?


Zibanejad is a minus three, on the season. Bozak is a minus sixteen on the season, and Kadri is a minus five on the season.


So whats your point?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 13 @ 8:04 AM ET
Zibanejad is a minus three, on the season. Bozak is a minus sixteen on the season, and Kadri is a minus five on the season.


So whats your point?

- Doppleganger

You're the one who cares about +/-

I just wanted to see your reaction when it's used against one of your team's players... And it's what I expected
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 13 @ 8:12 AM ET
You're the one who cares about +/-

I just wanted to see your reaction when it's used against one of your team's players... And it's what I expected

- Feeling Glucky?

What's karlsson at? How far negative?

Worst defenseman in his own zone in the entire league.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 13 @ 8:55 AM ET
What's karlsson at? How far negative?

Worst defenseman in his own zone in the entire league.

- prock


how's your 8 million dollar 3rd liner doing? since 2015 rolled around, what does he have, like 4 pts and is something like a -14.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 13 @ 9:43 AM ET
how's your 8 million dollar 3rd liner doing? since 2015 rolled around, what does he have, like 4 pts and is something like a -14.
- sensarmy_11


So our third liner would be your leading scorer?

Speaks volumes.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 13 @ 10:28 AM ET
So our third liner would be your leading scorer?

Speaks volumes.

- prock


awwwwwwwwww, someone sounds bitter this morning. did you wake up and FINALLY realize that you cheer for the biggest joke franchise in all of sports.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:59 AM ET
awwwwwwwwww, someone sounds bitter this morning. did you wake up and FINALLY realize that you cheer for the biggest joke franchise in all of sports.
- sensarmy_11

I'm actually hung over like a beeatch. But let's get real, the sens are a far, far, far bigger joke.

No cups, ever
Terrible team
Terrible group of prospects. No hope.
Can happy city that no one wants to play for
Two consecutive captains couldn't stand it anymore and left
No budget
No fans, can't even fill their building. No one cares.
Embarrassing owner that does things like calls forensic investigators. And has a spartan introduce the team.
Gets mad that neighboring teams outnumber them in their own building
Incapable of winning a playoff series against the team they try to make fun but of.


Seriously, it might be best for the league to just fold the sens.

The funny part of this convo is that our ex third liner actually IS one of your leading scorers.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 13 @ 11:07 AM ET
I'm actually hung over like a beeatch. But let's get real, the sens are a far, far, far bigger joke.

No cups, ever
Terrible team
Terrible group of prospects. No hope.
Can happy city that no one wants to play for
Two consecutive captains couldn't stand it anymore and left
No budget
No fans, can't even fill their building. No one cares.
Embarrassing owner that does things like calls forensic investigators. And has a spartan introduce the team.
Gets mad that neighboring teams outnumber them in their own building
Incapable of winning a playoff series against the team they try to make fun but of.


Seriously, it might be best for the league to just fold the sens.

The funny part of this convo is that our ex third liner actually IS one of your leading scorers.

- prock


poor prock....soooo sad
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 13 @ 11:10 AM ET
I'm actually hung over like a beeatch. But let's get real, the sens are a far, far, far bigger joke.

No cups, ever
Terrible team
Terrible group of prospects. No hope.
Can happy city that no one wants to play for
Two consecutive captains couldn't stand it anymore and left
No budget
No fans, can't even fill their building. No one cares.
Embarrassing owner that does things like calls forensic investigators. And has a spartan introduce the team.
Gets mad that neighboring teams outnumber them in their own building
Incapable of winning a playoff series against the team they try to make fun but

Seriously, it might be best for the league to just fold the sens.

The funny part of this convo is that our ex third liner actually IS one of your leading scorers.

- prock


Never have the Leafs been in worse shape than they are this morning. So, you like many blue and white Kool aid drinkers believe you can ease your pain by pointing fingers at others. Your emotional pain must be severe.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Feb 13 @ 11:12 AM ET
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 13 @ 11:13 AM ET
Never have the Leafs been in worse shape than they are this morning. So, you like many blue and white Kool aid drinkers believe you can ease your pain by pointing fingers at others. Your emotional pain must be severe.
- spatso



the leafs have never been in better shape.
this season could turn out to be one of the most important ever. Thats great news
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 13 @ 11:15 AM ET

- Doppleganger




Steve Warne™ ‏@TSNSteve
Kypreos takes run at Sens ancient banners. Says Messier once insisted they go out because they had just beaten the 1927 Stanley Cup Champs.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Feb 13 @ 11:19 AM ET
the leafs have never been in better shape.
this season could turn out to be one of the most important ever. Thats great news

- senstroll


Please explain.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 13 @ 11:23 AM ET
Please explain.
- Doppleganger


the leafs will be looking to move some or all of these players for futures between now and the Draft

Kessel
Phaneuf
Franson
winnink
Santo
Bozak
Lupul
Robidas
Holzer
Reimer
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 13 @ 11:31 AM ET
the leafs will be looking to move some or all of these players for futures between now and the Draft

Kessel
Phaneuf
Franson
winnink
Santo
Bozak
Lupul
Robidas
Holzer
Reimer

- senstroll



GIGO
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
GIGO
- spatso


the sens?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 13 @ 11:43 AM ET
the sens?
- senstroll


So comical. The sens ice crap lime kyle turris and bobby Ryan, and call one dimensional players like karlsson stars, and then are critical of kessel, jvr, phaneuf, etc.

They don't seem to realize their roster is total junk.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Feb 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
So comical. The sens ice crap lime kyle turris and bobby Ryan, and call one dimensional players like karlsson stars, and then are critical of kessel, jvr, phaneuf, etc.

They don't seem to realize their roster is total junk.

- prock



And yet they've been the better team in Ontario for at least the past decade.

So the leafs roster is the junk that junk throws out during spring cleaning.
jordan456789
Joined: 10.27.2007

Feb 13 @ 11:53 AM ET
So comical. The sens ice crap lime kyle turris and bobby Ryan, and call one dimensional players like karlsson stars, and then are critical of kessel, jvr, phaneuf, etc.

They don't seem to realize their roster is total junk.

- prock


How bad is it when a roster of total junk is currently better than your team and has been doe the last 10 years. Ryan is junk but is only a hand full of points back of jvr and less than 10 points back of the superstar kessel.
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