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Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 3:30 PM ET
Joe Thornton maybe.
- prock

Just the one Hart trophy?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 5 @ 3:34 PM ET
Just the one Hart trophy?
- Cape Breton Bruins


From Leafs third line centre, one Hart trophy ain't too bad, wouldn't you say?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 3:37 PM ET
From Leafs third line centre, one Hart trophy ain't too bad, wouldn't you say?
- prock

Kinda of setting the bar low for a stud like that....

Anyway please list the starting Leafs lineup for the 2012/13 NHL season with applicable line combos. Thanks.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 5 @ 3:40 PM ET
Kinda of setting the bar low for a stud like that....

Anyway please list the starting Leafs lineup for the 2012/13 NHL season with applicable line combos. Thanks.

- Cape Breton Bruins



It's a 2 year timeline from here, bud. Wouldn't you be more interested in the 13/14 roster?

First line
Parise - Crosby - Kessel
Lidstrom - Weber

Second line
Does it matter?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 3:44 PM ET
It's a 2 year timeline from here, bud. Wouldn't you be more interested in the 13/14 roster?

First line
Parise - Crosby - Kessel
Lidstrom - Weber

Second line
Does it matter?

- prock

thats your only downfall right there.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 3:45 PM ET
Honestly tho man, whats your opinion on the current state of the Leafs D core?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
thats your only downfall right there.
- Cape Breton Bruins

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
Honestly tho man, whats your opinion on the current state of the Leafs D core?
- Cape Breton Bruins



I think it's a pretty good D core (by the personnel they have), and when the goaltending finally stabilizes, and a decent system gets implemented, it'll be decent.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 3:52 PM ET

- Crimsoninja

They do need a new PR guy.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 3:53 PM ET
I think it's a pretty good D core (by the personnel they have), and when the goaltending finally stabilizes, and a decent system gets implemented, it'll be decent.
- prock

Will Kulemin be a 30 goal scorer ever again?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 5 @ 3:55 PM ET
Will Kulemin be a 30 goal scorer ever again?
- Cape Breton Bruins



Probably not. I doubt he comes up with a season as bad as 7 goals again in the near future either. As I said in another thread (or maybe earlier in this one, I don't know), either way, he's good defensively, hits like a freight train, and has a wicked shot. So, he's a decent player that can be used in several roles, so I'm not worried.
Cape Breton Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 3:59 PM ET
Probably not. I doubt he comes up with a season as bad as 7 goals again in the near future either. As I said in another thread (or maybe earlier in this one, I don't know), either way, he's good defensively, hits like a freight train, and has a wicked shot. So, he's a decent player that can be used in several roles, so I'm not worried.
- prock

If you could go back in time, would you NOT trade two 1sts and a 2nd for Phil Kessel?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 5 @ 4:01 PM ET
If you could go back in time, would you NOT trade two 1sts and a 2nd for Phil Kessel?
- Cape Breton Bruins


I wouldn't do it. I said the same at the time though.

It's not as lopsided as some will pretend it is, but not a good trade.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 7:46 PM ET
I wouldn't do it. I said the same at the time though.

It's not as lopsided as some will pretend it is, but not a good trade.

- prock

Perhaps indeed.

They traded depth for goals.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 5 @ 8:01 PM ET
Perhaps indeed.

They traded depth for goals.

- Cape Breton Bruins


Exactly what I said at the time(in fact, when it was still just a rumour) is that the problem with it is at that point, even if it works out, and he becomes everything you want him to be, you're trading away a huge part of what is needed to buyild a true contender around him. Its a lose\lose scenario. Burke has done an amazing job building a prospect group without those picks, but it still doesn't compare to the group of youngsters we could have had, obviously.
Shutdown
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Apr 5 @ 8:02 PM ET
im really happy this turned into a prock Q&A
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
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Apr 5 @ 8:04 PM ET
im really happy this turned into a prock Q&A
- Shutdown

I'm happy that you're happy.

In fact I'm happy that I'm happy that you're happy.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 8:05 PM ET
Exactly what I said at the time(in fact, when it was still just a rumour) is that the problem with it is at that point, even if it works out, and he becomes everything you want him to be, you're trading away a huge part of what is needed to buyild a true contender around him. Its a lose\lose scenario. Burke has done an amazing job building a prospect group without those picks, but it still doesn't compare to the group of youngsters we could have had, obviously.
- prock

on a scale of one to ten, where would you rate him in this manner?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
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Apr 5 @ 8:12 PM ET
I'm happy that you're happy.

In fact I'm happy that I'm happy that you're happy.

- daeth

I'll drink to that!
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 5 @ 8:13 PM ET
on a scale of one to ten, where would you rate him in this manner?
- Cape Breton Bruins



Without those picks? 8 or 9. Take a look at the prospect and young player group he inherited, and line it up beside the current group. Night and day. Doing that without those picks is incredible.

Compared to if he HAD kept the picks? Maybe 6 out of 10.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 8:16 PM ET
Without those picks? 8 or 9. Take a look at the prospect and young player group he inherited, and line it up beside the current group. Night and day. Doing that without those picks is incredible.

Compared to if he HAD kept the picks? Maybe 6 out of 10.

- prock

In your opinion, who are the top five prospects in the Leafs system and how to you see them making an impact in the NHL in the near future?
prock
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Apr 5 @ 8:25 PM ET
In your opinion, who are the top five prospects in the Leafs system and how to you see them making an impact in the NHL in the near future?
- Cape Breton Bruins


In no particular order, Kadri, Colborne, Mckegg, Blacker (prob wouldn't be as high on many other peoples list), and Percy.

Kadri and Colborne could be on the roster next year, probably not a huge impact out of either of them. Role players. Blacker one more year in the AHL. Mckegg and percy in the AHL. Percy needs another year in junior (I think he's still eligible), and a year or two in the A. Very sound dman though.

Brad Ross needs a couple more years at least..

Holzer is apparently looking NHL ready, but will never be an impact player. A stable depth dman at best. A similar story for marcel mueller. Could play a depth role next year, but will never be an impact player.

And that list will be given a huge boost by someone like Galchenyuk or something.



Edit - totally forgot Carter Ashton.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Apr 5 @ 9:41 PM ET
In no particular order, Kadri, Colborne, Mckegg, Blacker (prob wouldn't be as high on many other peoples list), and Percy.

Kadri and Colborne could be on the roster next year, probably not a huge impact out of either of them. Role players. Blacker one more year in the AHL. Mckegg and percy in the AHL. Percy needs another year in junior (I think he's still eligible), and a year or two in the A. Very sound dman though.

Brad Ross needs a couple more years at least..

Holzer is apparently looking NHL ready, but will never be an impact player. A stable depth dman at best. A similar story for marcel mueller. Could play a depth role next year, but will never be an impact player.

And that list will be given a huge boost by someone like Galchenyuk or something.



Edit - totally forgot Carter Ashton.

- prock

What do you think is the best way to approach the obvious lack of center depth? Or is that just a myth?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
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Apr 5 @ 9:51 PM ET
What do you think is the best way to approach the obvious lack of center depth? Or is that just a myth?
- Cape Breton Bruins


I think you've got it wrong. There is no lack of depth. There is lots of depth. Its a number one guy they're missing. Grabs is a great number two. Bozak is a solid third liner, could pass as a second in a pinch. But shouldn't be playing first. Connolly similar. Lombardi great depth centre. Obvious injury issues there though. Colborne should be good for a depth role next year. Lots of depth.

If he finds a first line centre somewhere, shift Bozak to third line, then there is connolly, lombardi and Colborne to fill in the rest. More than enough.
annoyance_101
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Apr 5 @ 9:58 PM ET
im really happy this turned into a prock Q&A
- Shutdown


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