Malkin, in beast mode since Sid went down.

nope

Malkin, in beast mode since Sid went down.
- powerhouse

Best player in the league when he doesn't have Crosby holding him back.

Best player in the league when he doesn't have Crosby holding him back.
- Zombie

i have no facts to back this up, but no.

i have no facts to back this up, but no.
- Shutdown

I do. When Crosby goes down and Malkin's healthy he rips the league apart.

i have no facts to back this up, but no.
- Shutdown

I do. When Crosby goes down and Malkin's healthy he rips the league apart.
- Zombie

Fact.

Fact.
- bureforearthsprez

Yep.

Crosby holding him back?

lol

no

Crosby played 77 games when Malkin had his career year in points. Crosby playing or not playing has no affect on Malkin's ability to dominate.

Crosby holding him back?

lol

no

Crosby played 77 games when Malkin had his career year in points. Crosby playing or not playing has no affect on Malkin's ability to dominate.
- daeth

lol

Yes

When Crosby missed the last 30 games games I 07/08 Malkin put up something like 55 points in those 30 games.

i have no facts back any of this up, but i am undecided on the subject as of now

Yes he did have a nice run when Crosby was out in 07-08. He had a stretch of 30 points in 15 games. The year after that he had a stretch where he got 27 points in 13 games too. Surprisingly Crosby was healthy then. It can't be that he's just a good player who plays well all the time. Nope. Better get rid of Crosby so Malkin can shine. Malkin didn't suck last year because he was battling through injuries, it must've been Crosby holding him back.

Seriously though Malkin is always a beast when healthy. Doesn't matter who else is playing.

Yes he did have a nice run when Crosby was out in 07-08. He had a stretch of 30 points in 15 games. The year after that he had a stretch where he got 27 points in 13 games too. Surprisingly Crosby was healthy then. It can't be that he's just a good player who plays well all the time. Nope. Better get rid of Crosby so Malkin can shine. Malkin didn't suck last year because he was battling through injuries, it must've been Crosby holding him back.

Seriously though Malkin is always a beast when healthy. Doesn't matter who else is playing.
- daeth

Way more beastly when Crosby is out.

Way more beastly when Crosby is out.
- bureforearthsprez

Because Crosby is holding him back? Crosby draws the defensive matchups and Malkin gets the same ice time (or close to it) when Crosby is in or out. Having Crosby playing healthy is a good thing for the entire Pittsburgh team.

Maybe Malkin steps up his game and finds another gear when Crosby is out. That could happen. That's hardly Crosby holding him back like he suggested though.

Because Crosby is holding him back? Crosby draws the defensive matchups and Malkin gets the same ice time (or close to it) when Crosby is in or out. Having Crosby playing healthy is a good thing for the entire Pittsburgh team.

Maybe Malkin steps up his game and finds another gear when Crosby is out. That could happen. That's hardly Crosby holding him back like he suggested though.
- daeth

Whatever spin you want to put on it, he's better when Crosby is out.

Because Crosby is holding him back? Crosby draws the defensive matchups and Malkin gets the same ice time (or close to it) when Crosby is in or out. Having Crosby playing healthy is a good thing for the entire Pittsburgh team.

Maybe Malkin steps up his game and finds another gear when Crosby is out. That could happen. That's hardly Crosby holding him back like he suggested though.
- daeth

I never said Crosby held him back. I said Malkin goes into beast mode when Crosby is out.

I never said Crosby held him back. I said Malkin goes into beast mode when Crosby is out.
- bureforearthsprez

Zombie said that.

Zombie said that.
- daeth

Good for him.

Beast mode.

Zombie said that.
- daeth

When a guy does better when another guy isn't around, I consider that being held back.

When a guy does better when another guy isn't around, I consider that being held back.
- Zombie

Malkin considers himslf second when Sid is around?

Malkin considers himslf second when Sid is around?
- powerhouse

You'd have to ask him.

You'd have to ask him.
- Zombie

Just from his behavior it seems to be true. Anyway, thats my take.

Just from his behavior it seems to be true. Anyway, thats my take.
- powerhouse

Ya I'd agree.

Malkin puts up more points when he's the only go to superstar on the ice

Pittsburgh is a better team when they're both in the lineup

Just from his behavior it seems to be true. Anyway, thats my take.
- powerhouse

My take is only one guy can have the puck at a time. Both Sid and Malkin thrive when they have the puck. Without Sid being there Malkin gets more of the premium ice time and is the guy with the puck more often.