Brandon Smillie: Acquiring Laine Would Exceptional... But At What Cost?

Yeah, don't think Habs could acquire Laine and dump Alzner at the same time...no chance.

As a leaf fan, I can think of nothing better to add to the leaf/habs rivalrey than seeing Mathews/Laine lining up across from each other.

If I am putting my Jets gm hat on, and trying to figure out how best to put a positive spin on trading away Laine, Tie Domi's son absolutely has to come back the other way. That is the starting point, to sell Jets fans, then add a top prospect, picks, ++.

As a leaf fan, I can think of nothing better to add to the leaf/habs rivalrey than seeing Mathews/Laine lining up across from each other.

If I am putting my Jets gm hat on, and trying to figure out how best to put a positive spin on trading away Laine, Tie Domi's son absolutely has to come back the other way. That is the starting point, to sell Jets fans, then add a top prospect, picks, ++.
- B-Wforever

Domi was the heart and soul of the team last year. No way he gets traded, even for a guy as talented as Laine.

I love when Leaf fans get in early with an intelligent, well thought out opinion. It's how you know it'll be a good thread

As a leaf fan, I can think of nothing better to add to the leaf/habs rivalrey than seeing Mathews/Laine lining up across from each other.

If I am putting my Jets gm hat on, and trying to figure out how best to put a positive spin on trading away Laine, Tie Domi's son absolutely has to come back the other way. That is the starting point, to sell Jets fans, then add a top prospect, picks, ++.
- B-Wforever

I don't think Domi is going anywhere, let alone with top Prospect, picks, ++. Maybe Danault though?

Domi = Laine if we add a prospect or a pick they need to take Alzner too.

I don't think Domi is going anywhere, let alone with top Prospect, picks, ++. Maybe Danault though?
- Brandon Smillie

Ideally Drouin but I could understand the Jets wanting him.

I don't think Domi is going anywhere, let alone with top Prospect, picks, ++. Maybe Danault though?
- Brandon Smillie

Danault or Tatar, a pick, and Suzuki or Poelhing and I think its a conversation starter

I don't think Domi is going anywhere, let alone with top Prospect, picks, ++. Maybe Danault though?
- Brandon Smillie

In the Leaf fans defense...you suggesting Alzner could be involved in anyway at all is similarly unrealistic. No...Winnipeg doesn't want him. No other team does either. If MB hasn't offered him to every team already with 50% salary retention he should just hand his office keys to Timmins and go hide in a cabin in northern Quebec. Alzner clearly isn't in the plans and he wasn't bought out...that should tell you where he stands in the eyes of MB and other NHL GMs

Domi = Laine if we add a prospect or a pick they need to take Alzner too.
- DonCherries

Domi had 22 points more and 2 less goals than Laine last season...

Domi had 22 points more and 2 less goals than Laine last season...
- BashCH

My point exactly

I'm a believer of Drouin's so I hope he stays. If the Habs are rumored to be willing to pay up then a $10.5 offer sheet would work BUT if the rumors of Laine being unhappy in Winnipeg are true then he likely wouldn't sign it anyways so he doesn't get stuck there for 7 more years.

If all this drama rumored out there is somewhat correct then I would think Laine is dealt this summer and the Jets easily just sign Conner to fill out their top 6. Maybe the Jets want that 1st, top prospect, and quality bottom 6 F's to make sure they don't have rookies/AHL'ers getting run over every game? Looking at the Jets cap friendly page its clear there is a lot of work to do over there

I'm a believer of Drouin's so I hope he stays. If the Habs are rumored to be willing to pay up then a $10.5 offer sheet would work BUT if the rumors of Laine being unhappy in Winnipeg are true then he likely wouldn't sign it anyways so he doesn't get stuck there for 7 more years.

If all this drama rumored out there is somewhat correct then I would think Laine is dealt this summer and the Jets easily just sign Conner to fill out their top 6. Maybe the Jets want that 1st, top prospect, and quality bottom 6 F's to make sure they don't have rookies/AHL'ers getting run over every game? Looking at the Jets cap friendly page its clear there is a lot of work to do over there
- Brandon Smillie

So you think a 1st, Suzuki and Byron could do it?

In the Leaf fans defense...you suggesting Alzner could be involved in anyway at all is similarly unrealistic. No...Winnipeg doesn't want him. No other team does either. If MB hasn't offered him to every team already with 50% salary retention he should just hand his office keys to Timmins and go hide in a cabin in northern Quebec. Alzner clearly isn't in the plans and he wasn't bought out...that should tell you where he stands in the eyes of MB and other NHL GMs
- Takemedrunkimhome

I wasn't attacking said Leafs fan at all, in fact I appreciated the comment. I don't think Domi is leaving MTL unless he wants to when he is free to do so so that is why I made my comment.

Alzner being dealt is unlikely but it's a contract that I'm sure they are trying to move and with some cap retention it should be possible, just depends on what's coming back. My argument was the Jets are receiving a 1st, 2nd, and elite prospect in Suzuki. That alone might make a deal happen. Adding Juulsen to take a discounted Alzner on a team with no one signed after this season except Buff and Poolman might be something that would be discussed. All of that though depends on how highly the Jets view Suzuki and Juulsen of course

So you think a 1st, Suzuki and Byron could do it?
- DonCherries

I think we would have to have something a bit over the offer sheet compensation of 1, 1, 2, 3.

So the 1st and Suzuki could be arguably worth the 1, 1, 2. I think the Jets aren't very deep on talented D in the prospect pool (save for the newly drafted Heinola, but he hasn't begun his development path yet) and Juulsen is maybe a half season away from jumping into the NHL. Perhaps Suzuki, 1, 2, and Juulsen could make it happen, but the jets need depth on D and in the bottom 6 F's.

Who knows! Just wanted to see if I could make sense of what a deal might resemble and get ppl talking

just a guess, but it'd probably take Drouin, your top prospect and 1st + 2nd (or something near that).

If there was a deal with Winnipeg, its likely to be Laine+ from them and a bunch of things from your side. I doubt it would just be a simple 1 player target trade.

RFA's are pulling a Nylander this year. Toronto dun goof'd with it last year, and it screwed over every other team with high end RFAs this year, themselves included.

I wasn't attacking said Leafs fan at all, in fact I appreciated the comment. I don't think Domi is leaving MTL unless he wants to when he is free to do so so that is why I made my comment.

Alzner being dealt is unlikely but it's a contract that I'm sure they are trying to move and with some cap retention it should be possible, just depends on what's coming back. My argument was the Jets are receiving a 1st, 2nd, and elite prospect in Suzuki. That alone might make a deal happen. Adding Juulsen to take a discounted Alzner on a team with no one signed after this season except Buff and Poolman might be something that would be discussed. All of that though depends on how highly the Jets view Suzuki and Juulsen of course
- Brandon Smillie

I see the Jets like most teams as relatively cap strapped. I'd happily be proved wrong but I just don't see a scenario where Alzer is moved if he hasn't been moved yet

I think we would have to have something a bit over the offer sheet compensation of 1, 1, 2, 3.

So the 1st and Suzuki could be arguably worth the 1, 1, 2. I think the Jets aren't very deep on talented D in the prospect pool (save for the newly drafted Heinola, but he hasn't begun his development path yet) and Juulsen is maybe a half season away from jumping into the NHL. Perhaps Suzuki, 1, 2, and Juulsen could make it happen, but the jets need depth on D and in the bottom 6 F's.

Who knows! Just wanted to see if I could make sense of what a deal might resemble and get ppl talking
- Brandon Smillie

In my humble opinion Romanov is regarded more highly than Juulsen, If we were to do 1st, 2nd, Suzuki and Romanov do you believe its feasible to have them take Alzner also?

just a guess, but it'd probably take Drouin, your top prospect and 1st + 2nd (or something near that).

If there was a deal with Winnipeg, its likely to be Laine+ from them and a bunch of things from your side. I doubt it would just be a simple 1 player target trade.

RFA's are pulling a Nylander this year. Toronto dun goof'd with it last year, and it screwed over every other team with high end RFAs this year, themselves included.
- Buggy166

For Nylander it more or less seems to have worked...so why wouldn't they?

just a guess, but it'd probably take Drouin, your top prospect and 1st + 2nd (or something near that).

If there was a deal with Winnipeg, its likely to be Laine+ from them and a bunch of things from your side. I doubt it would just be a simple 1 player target trade.

RFA's are pulling a Nylander this year. Toronto dun goof'd with it last year, and it screwed over every other team with high end RFAs this year, themselves included.
- Buggy166

Some Habs fans might jump at your trade idea too! I'm just a believer in Drouin and hope he is staying to work with the future of Domi, Poehling, and Kotkaniemi at C

2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd would get er done

Whatcha waitin for Bergy?

In my humble opinion Romanov is regarded more highly than Juulsen, If we were to do 1st, 2nd, Suzuki and Romanov do you believe its feasible to have them take Alzner also?
- DonCherries

Man, that's a hefty price for me to pay but is it worth moving Alzner and adding a young, large 40 goal man for the RW? Maybe...

For Nylander it more or less seems to have worked...so why wouldn't they?
- Takemedrunkimhome

Bingo.

Few things,
-alzner, lol, let’s get real

-jets don’t need goalie prospects, we had two goalies in the top 10 save % in the AHL last year and our starter is locked up long term

-our depth in D is not bad, Heinola, Samberg and Niku are all future regulars on Jets D.

-stop comparing Laine and Domi. Look at the history of the nhl and compare who’s scored as much as Laine at his age.

-Jets would absolutely want one of Drouin or Domi. Then Suzuki, then add another prospect or pick. Not saying you’d like that but that’s the cost.