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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Oct 10 @ 10:59 PM ET
Jan Levine: Rangers and Lafreniere working on a long-term contract 8 for 8 rumored
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 11 @ 7:45 AM ET
If that's the deal, I have no idea why it wasn't done months ago. We all saw that number coming.
banger94
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 04.11.2024

Oct 11 @ 7:57 AM ET
If that's the deal, I have no idea why it wasn't done months ago. We all saw that number coming.
- Tonybere

My guess is the Rangers would sign up for that today (as would I) and Laf is willing to bet on himself for potentially more.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Oct 11 @ 8:52 AM ET
$8.5M would be the cap% equivalent of Jack Hughes' deal which was 9.7% of the cap when he was signed. I'm fine with $8.5 or anything below, just get it done ASAP so we have certainty for the Shesty deal.
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Oct 11 @ 8:59 AM ET
If Laf starts rolling and the Drury drags his feet a bit, that price tag will be inching up every toe drag goal.

Old man reflection: Remember when 8mill was reserved only for the top end player. Back in 1998 when Lindros was the top paid player.

Fun fact to support Igor getting paid. In 1998, 4 goalies were in the top 20 of salaries. Currently, on 2 goalies. One being Carey Price who isn't even playing.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Oct 11 @ 9:05 AM ET
If Laf starts rolling and the Drury drags his feet a bit, that price tag will be inching up every toe drag goal.

Old man reflection: Remember when 8mill was reserved only for the top end player. Back in 1998 when Lindros was the top paid player.

Fun fact to support Igor getting paid. In 1998, 4 goalies were in the top 20 of salaries. Currently, on 2 goalies. One being Carey Price who isn't even playing.

- NYRCeph

I'm on Team Pay Igor but it's tough to compare today to pre-cap NHL
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 11 @ 9:22 AM ET
If Laf starts rolling and the Drury drags his feet a bit, that price tag will be inching up every toe drag goal.

Old man reflection: Remember when 8mill was reserved only for the top end player. Back in 1998 when Lindros was the top paid player.

Fun fact to support Igor getting paid. In 1998, 4 goalies were in the top 20 of salaries. Currently, on 2 goalies. One being Carey Price who isn't even playing.


Yeah but back then there was only a number 1 goalie who played 60-70 games and a back up that played 10 to 20.

Now a days you have the 1a and 1b goalie because todays goalies only play 50 maybe 55 games so you need a really good 1b player.
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Oct 11 @ 9:25 AM ET
I'm on Team Pay Igor but it's tough to compare today to pre-cap NHL
- SkjeiStadium

Playing fun adjusted inflation numbers on salary. If Igor wants to be paid 11.7 Million a year. In 1998 adjusted for backwards inflation, he would be making 6 million a year.
So based on JUST CPI adjusted inflation salary. He is not off base.

Responding to Brukie's comment as well, absolutely other factors come into play when paying someone commensurate to current market conditions. I am just playing with fun stats and numbers.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Oct 11 @ 10:16 AM ET
Sign it, seal it, deliver it


In other news. Goodrow scored in game 1 last night
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Oct 11 @ 10:35 AM ET
Playing fun adjusted inflation numbers on salary. If Igor wants to be paid 11.7 Million a year. In 1998 adjusted for backwards inflation, he would be making 6 million a year.
So based on JUST CPI adjusted inflation salary. He is not off base.

Responding to Brukie's comment as well, absolutely other factors come into play when paying someone commensurate to current market conditions. I am just playing with fun stats and numbers.

- NYRCeph

I'd be more curious looking at the numbers from goalies in 2006 in the first year under the cap. And seeing how the top goalie contracts then compare to today, but using the increase in salary cap rather than CPI as the adjustment.

Not giving you homework but if you're so inclined...
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Oct 11 @ 10:55 AM ET
I'd be more curious looking at the numbers from goalies in 2006 in the first year under the cap. And seeing how the top goalie contracts then compare to today, but using the increase in salary cap rather than CPI as the adjustment.

Not giving you homework but if you're so inclined...

- SkjeiStadium

I ended up doing it myself.

In 2005-2006 the salary cap was $39M. 2025-2026 (start of Igors new contract) is supposed to be $92.5M.

If Igor signs for $12M, based on the increase in the cap over the years that would be equivalent to a salary of $5.1M in 05/06.

Top 3 goalie salaries in 05/06:
Khabibulin: $6.75M
Brodeur: $5.24M
Kolzig: $4.94M

As other have pointed out there are differences in workloads for goalies and how teams are built in general but pretty interesting.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
the only problem with debating whether or not Igor should get 12 million a year is what evidence do we have that he would even accept that number?

maybe he wants to be highest paid player in NHL
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Oct 11 @ 11:53 AM ET
I ended up doing it myself.

In 2005-2006 the salary cap was $39M. 2025-2026 (start of Igors new contract) is supposed to be $92.5M.

If Igor signs for $12M, based on the increase in the cap over the years that would be equivalent to a salary of $5.1M in 05/06.

Top 3 goalie salaries in 05/06:
Khabibulin: $6.75M
Brodeur: $5.24M
Kolzig: $4.94M

As other have pointed out there are differences in workloads for goalies and how teams are built in general but pretty interesting.

- SkjeiStadium


Get the regular season games played argument, but he’s going to play 100% of playoff games and that’s all that matters to me now. Cup of bust the next handful of years.

$12M seems like a ton, but gotta get it done. Doesn’t seem like it would have major implications to the roster construction as long as the cap goes up as expected.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 11 @ 11:54 AM ET
the only problem with debating whether or not Igor should get 12 million a year is what evidence do we have that he would even accept that number?

maybe he wants to be highest paid player in NHL

- jimbro83


Well, obviously EVERYTHING we discuss is conjecture. But, he did state that he wants to be the highest paid on the team and didn't mention the league at large. I'd say that's enough to base a useless, arbitrary debate on!
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 11 @ 11:55 AM ET
Get the regular season games played argument, but he’s going to play 100% of playoff games and that’s all that matters to me now. Cup of bust the next handful of years.

$12M seems like a ton, but gotta get it done. Doesn’t seem like it would have major implications to the roster construction as long as the cap goes up as expected.

- TC88


That is one incredible typo!!!!
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Oct 11 @ 11:57 AM ET
That is one incredible typo!!!!
- Tonybere




I’m leaving it.
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Oct 11 @ 11:59 AM ET
I ended up doing it myself.

In 2005-2006 the salary cap was $39M. 2025-2026 (start of Igors new contract) is supposed to be $92.5M.

If Igor signs for $12M, based on the increase in the cap over the years that would be equivalent to a salary of $5.1M in 05/06.

Top 3 goalie salaries in 05/06:
Khabibulin: $6.75M
Brodeur: $5.24M
Kolzig: $4.94M

As other have pointed out there are differences in workloads for goalies and how teams are built in general but pretty interesting.

- SkjeiStadium


Interesting. Nice job.

And those 3 goalies were the only goalies in the top 25 in salaries that year. Last year there were no goalies in the top 25 salaries. It appears that Igor is trying to reset the market for goalies to be back in the mix of top salaries.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 11 @ 11:59 AM ET
Well, obviously EVERYTHING we discuss is conjecture. But, he did state that he wants to be the highest paid on the team and didn't mention the league at large. I'd say that's enough to base a useless, arbitrary debate on!
- Tonybere


yeah, I hear ya

I just really think it's kind of like a Juan Soto situation with Igor

he wants to see what he can get as a UFA next summer

doesn't mean he won't sign long term with the Rangers next summer, and maybe he'd still give the Rangers a final chance to match some other teams offer, but I just get the feeling he's going UFA

and thats fine, if he's betting on himself, 2024-25 should be a great season
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Oct 11 @ 12:02 PM ET


I’m leaving it.

- TC88


That, sir, is a different game completely that you are talking about.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 11 @ 12:14 PM ET
yeah, I hear ya

I just really think it's kind of like a Juan Soto situation with Igor

he wants to see what he can get as a UFA next summer

doesn't mean he won't sign long term with the Rangers next summer, and maybe he'd still give the Rangers a final chance to match some other teams offer, but I just get the feeling he's going UFA

and thats fine, if he's betting on himself, 2024-25 should be a great season

- jimbro83

If the money is his main motivator here, he's almost certainly going to remain with the Rangers. They can give him the 8th year and another team would have to pay him significantly more to get to the same total contract value. If he took $12x8 in NY that's $96M total. A team that could only give him 7 years would have to pay about $13.7M to get to the same number. That would be a real tough contract for most teams to handle.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 11 @ 12:14 PM ET
That, sir, is a different game completely that you are talking about.
- NYRCeph

Bukkhockey
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:17 PM ET
If the money is his main motivator here, he's almost certainly going to remain with the Rangers. They can give him the 8th year and another team would have to pay him significantly more to get to the same total contract value. If he took $12x8 in NY that's $96M total. A team that could only give him 7 years would have to pay about $13.7M to get to the same number. That would be a real tough contract for most teams to handle.
- eichiefs9


yeah thats the kicker for sure, that 8th year
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 11 @ 12:22 PM ET
If the money is his main motivator here, he's almost certainly going to remain with the Rangers. They can give him the 8th year and another team would have to pay him significantly more to get to the same total contract value. If he took $12x8 in NY that's $96M total. A team that could only give him 7 years would have to pay about $13.7M to get to the same number. That would be a real tough contract for most teams to handle.
- eichiefs9


If he gets to Free Agency on July 1st 2025 can the Rangers still offer him the 8th year?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:23 PM ET
If he gets to Free Agency on July 1st 2025 can the Rangers still offer him the 8th year?
- climbdenali12


thats good point, I dont think they can
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 11 @ 12:28 PM ET
thats good point, I dont think they can
- jimbro83

That would suck to lose Igor for nothing

He could bring a haul in a trade to help extend the window

If Drury realizes he can’t afford him maybe it would be smart to move him at the deadline

It’s a tough predicament cause they want to win a cup this year
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