Mike Augello: Illness Working It’s Way And Woll Injury Update

- dmnted

Hopefully you're not like many of the other pussies and defer to Thick Neck

Ducherov on a 164 goal pace.

I went to Vegas in 2018 with some high school buddies - to put some context on it we are in very different tax brackets. One of them sold a company for a few million in the early 2000s and has since gone on to other CTO roles and whatnot - and another is an EVP at a bank. I'm doing fine, but my annual income is at best 20% of those guys. So we head down and head out to eat and whatnot and their choices exhaust my expected funds pretty quickly.

Day 3 we're out at the $5 tables and one of my friends had to leave so I sat in for him. He'd started at $100, was down to about . . . maybe $30? Anyway, I got lucky and took his $30 up to about $250 or something. That night we went back grabbed a seat and the hands me his $250 and says, "You won it. It's yours," and we all play . . . and I poop you not - it had to be 20 minutes, maybe less - we were wiped out. The dealer just kept landing blackjack after blackjack.
- Monkeypunk

Almost 2 years from this date I turned a $10 bet on golf into $300. I bet $10 on the sat for Homa to win. He was 30-1 to win at the time. He went to a playoff and on the playoff he put it in the bunker short and the guy he played with hit to 8’. Homa chunked his bunker shot and my cashout was $1.00. Homa then went onto chip in for birdie (par 5) and the other guy 3 putted from 8’ to make par and Homa won.

I then took that $300 into blackjack (online) and turned it into $27000 over the course of about 3 weeks. Thought of it as free money and was betting big numbers. Over the the thanksgiving long week 2 years ago I had a few drinks and ended up losing it all.

3 days after I deposited $1000 because I was pissed I lost all that. I turned $1000 into $21000 in about 45 mins and cashed out.

It wrecked my mentals for awhile and I do not recommend. Guilt was huge.

That adrenaline high is crazy though. Words has never been my thing but I’ve been playing cards since I was a kid. Probability and math is definitely helpful but luck is a female dog sometimes.

Almost 2 years from this date I turned a $10 bet on golf into $300. I bet $10 on the sat for Homa to win. He was 30-1 to win at the time. He went to a playoff and on the playoff he put it in the bunker short and the guy he played with hit to 8’. Homa chunked his bunker shot and my cashout was $1.00. Homa then went onto chip in for birdie (par 5) and the other guy 3 putted from 8’ to make par and Homa won.

I then took that $300 into blackjack (online) and turned it into $27000 over the course of about 3 weeks. Thought of it as free money and was betting big numbers. Over the the thanksgiving long week 2 years ago I had a few drinks and ended up losing it all.

3 days after I deposited $1000 because I was pissed I lost all that. I turned $1000 into $21000 in about 45 mins and cashed out.

It wrecked my mentals for awhile and I do not recommend. Guilt was huge.

That adrenaline high is crazy though. Words has never been my thing but I’ve been playing cards since I was a kid. Probability and math is definitely helpful but luck is a female dog sometimes.
- bryant

always

- dmnted

Well they sure went out of their way to have a hot take on that one did they?
- Scabeh

Glad Marty Fatdeur never worked out and was able to play 70 games a season standing on his pencil neck thin legs. Hell, Eddie the Drunk Eagle played 60 games and half of them he was off in a bar between periods.

Almost 2 years from this date I turned a $10 bet on golf into $300. I bet $10 on the sat for Homa to win. He was 30-1 to win at the time. He went to a playoff and on the playoff he put it in the bunker short and the guy he played with hit to 8’. Homa chunked his bunker shot and my cashout was $1.00. Homa then went onto chip in for birdie (par 5) and the other guy 3 putted from 8’ to make par and Homa won.

I then took that $300 into blackjack (online) and turned it into $27000 over the course of about 3 weeks. Thought of it as free money and was betting big numbers. Over the the thanksgiving long week 2 years ago I had a few drinks and ended up losing it all.

3 days after I deposited $1000 because I was pissed I lost all that. I turned $1000 into $21000 in about 45 mins and cashed out.

It wrecked my mentals for awhile and I do not recommend. Guilt was huge.

That adrenaline high is crazy though. Words has never been my thing but I’ve been playing cards since I was a kid. Probability and math is definitely helpful but luck is a female dog sometimes.
- bryant

this was a wild ride reading this

Well they sure went out of their way to have a hot take on that one did they?
- Scabeh

Glad Marty Fatdeur never worked out and was able to play 70 games a season standing on his pencil neck thin legs. Hell, Eddie the Drunk Eagle played 60 games and half of them he was off in a bar between periods.
- AdamFrench

Without the trap and with two-line passes, Brodeur would get picked apart now.

Without the trap and with two-line passes, Brodeur would get picked apart now.
- GalacticStone

Yes, but he would play 60 games without injuring himself in practice.

Yes, but he would play 60 games without injuring himself in practice.
- AdamFrench

Let's be fair to Woll, it must not be easy to play netminder as an hermaphrodite.

Let's be fair to Woll, it must not be easy to play netminder as an hermaphrodite.
- Symba007

It's actually not that bad (a guy was telling me).

Without the trap and with two-line passes, Brodeur would get picked apart now.
- GalacticStone

Not so sure he would.
With a quality defense in front of him, i think he would still be great. He was very sound positionally, had great reflexes, glove hand and was one of the best at handling the puck. He had some pudge on him so he wasnt as fragile as some current goalies.

Not so sure he would.
With a quality defense in front of him, i think he would still be great. He was very sound positionally, had great reflexes, glove hand and was one of the best at handling the puck. He had some pudge on him so he wasnt as fragile as some current goalies.
- Fakepartofme

Per your medical advice, Woll is putting on 40lbs of "pudge."

Not so sure he would.
With a quality defense in front of him, i think he would still be great. He was very sound positionally, had great reflexes, glove hand and was one of the best at handling the puck. He had some pudge on him so he wasnt as fragile as some current goalies.
- Fakepartofme

Agree with this but to me the biggest reason is that his style of play was not pure butterfly but a hybrid at best. He never did a full butterfly, half sometimes but stayed on his feet as much as he could. This puts far less strain on knees, hips and the groin which are where most goalie injuries occur due to the torque and strain the butterfly puts on the body.

Think about today's goalies and how many times they butterfly in practice, morning skates and games - that's a lot of wear and tear on the body.

Not so sure he would.
With a quality defense in front of him, i think he would still be great. He was very sound positionally, had great reflexes, glove hand and was one of the best at handling the puck. He had some pudge on him so he wasnt as fragile as some current goalies.
- Fakepartofme

Agreed.

The puck always hit him.

Agree with this but to me the biggest reason is that his style of play was not pure butterfly but a hybrid at best. He never did a full butterfly, half sometimes but stayed on his feet as much as he could. This puts far less strain on knees, hips and the groin which are where most goalie injuries occur due to the torque and strain the butterfly puts on the body.

Think about today's goalies and how many times they butterfly in practice, morning skates and games - that's a lot of wear and tear on the body.
- Cush29

Agreed. The position is more athletic, goalies are bigger and are carrying around much more padding. There’s a lot more strain.

Agree with this but to me the biggest reason is that his style of play was not pure butterfly but a hybrid at best. He never did a full butterfly, half sometimes but stayed on his feet as much as he could. This puts far less strain on knees, hips and the groin which are where most goalie injuries occur due to the torque and strain the butterfly puts on the body.

Think about today's goalies and how many times they butterfly in practice, morning skates and games - that's a lot of wear and tear on the body.
- Cush29

The thing to me is that it's not just that style - a lot of people want to discredit Brodeur's performance because of the team in front of him - and I would say that perhaps it's a reason I think he's 3rd out of the best goalies of that era (Hasek, Roy, Brodeur), but when you look at his history - almost every year he outperformed the backup goaltenders on the team - often by a noteworthy margin.

Even by the standards we use to look at a good goalie now - it's the same real standard - we all just want consistent year-over-year goaltending. CuJo and Belfour gave us that. Andersen gave us that for 3 years.

But these days it's Shesterkin, Sorokin, Saros, Hellebuyck - who we consider the best because of that consistency. In the 90s, no matter how much people want to give all the credit to the team defense, Martin Brodeur gave them that. And it was through a bit of a carousel of coaches - Lemaire, Ftorek, Robinson, Burns, Lamiorello himself, Julien, Sutter . . . I mean it was a list of guys who didn't all have the same style.

Agreed. The position is more athletic, goalies are bigger and are carrying around much more padding. There’s a lot more strain.
- Canada Cup

But the goalies pad are so much lighter compare to decades ago.
Also the protective gear is also much lighter, even though they may wear more of it.

But the goalies pad are so much lighter compare to decades ago.
Also the protective gear is also much lighter, even though they may wear more of it.
- Fakepartofme

Just want to add that the protective gear is so much more protective.

It's easier to stop a puck if you know it won't leave a deep bone bruise for a month.

Just want to add that the protective gear is so much more protective.

It's easier to stop a puck if you know it won't leave a deep bone bruise for a month.
- Atomic Wedgie

I recall Glenn Hall talking about that - when Bobby Hull would shoot, goalies would try to save it with their pads if it was low enough or shift their bodies out of the way and try and catch it with the glove or blocker, but if it got by them, they didn't want to be behind it - unless it was the playoffs - specifically because of the risk of a broken rib or the deep bruising.

The oldest goalie equipment I ever wore was more equivalent to that which guys like Palmateer wore in the 70s. The pads were short, the upper body padding was not exactly thin, but like I could feel shots from my friends when I wore it and we were like 14 or 15 and they did sort of hurt. What all of it did though was get absurdly wet. Like if you played like Palmateer - all over the ice - you soaked up everything. The pads must've gained 5 pounds each in an hour and the chest protector even more.

I actually found that while the glove got bigger and the glove part of the hand protection on the blocker got better, there wasn't a ton of difference in those. Although I also never did own any "good" goalie equipment - like the really waterproof modern stuff.

Per your medical advice, Woll is putting on 40lbs of "pudge."
- Whipper

Give him 500 grams of the below daily STAT!!

Which was the best ice cream ever....stoopid PC discontinued it.

Not so sure he would.
With a quality defense in front of him, i think he would still be great. He was very sound positionally, had great reflexes, glove hand and was one of the best at handling the puck. He had some pudge on him so he wasnt as fragile as some current goalies.
- Fakepartofme

"Picked apart" is too dramatic and overstates my point. He is one of the greatest goalies of all time and probably would have been elite on any team. I think he also benefited from one of the stingiest team defenses of all time.

The Devils had a murderers row patrolling the blue line and some very good defensive forwards committed to the system.

I recall Glenn Hall talking about that - when Bobby Hull would shoot, goalies would try to save it with their pads if it was low enough or shift their bodies out of the way and try and catch it with the glove or blocker, but if it got by them, they didn't want to be behind it - unless it was the playoffs - specifically because of the risk of a broken rib or the deep bruising.

The oldest goalie equipment I ever wore was more equivalent to that which guys like Palmateer wore in the 70s. The pads were short, the upper body padding was not exactly thin, but like I could feel shots from my friends when I wore it and we were like 14 or 15 and they did sort of hurt. What all of it did though was get absurdly wet. Like if you played like Palmateer - all over the ice - you soaked up everything. The pads must've gained 5 pounds each in an hour and the chest protector even more.

I actually found that while the glove got bigger and the glove part of the hand protection on the blocker got better, there wasn't a ton of difference in those. Although I also never did own any "good" goalie equipment - like the really waterproof modern stuff.
- Monkeypunk

A friend of mine was a high level goalie in the 1980s.

Years later, his daughter was a high level goalie.

He would put on her equipment every once in a while and laugh his head off - he says it wasn't even comparable - apples to dumptrucks.