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Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 13 @ 6:45 AM ET
So, training camp is commencing and yet we have nothing from you Shelley. What is the deal.

There are (9) days until the first preseason game and training is in session yet we the readers still have to provide the content for this stale blog.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 13 @ 8:27 AM ET
So, training camp is commencing and yet we have nothing from you Shelley. What is the deal.

There are (9) days until the first preseason game and training is in session yet we the readers still have to provide the content for this stale blog.

- Nfdbulldawg

It’s going to be ok.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 13 @ 8:41 AM ET
It’s going to be ok.
- Cptmjl


Islanders are a tough team to blog about. Just not a lot of excitement and normally not a lot of new players to write about.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Sep 13 @ 10:11 AM ET
Here's your blog in tweet form:

Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
Lou says Sorokin did suffer an offseason injury but he is skating now. Lou says it’s not clear whether he’ll be ready for starting camp but no concerns now he’ll miss time to start season. Upper body issue.



Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
Matt Martin will attend #Isles camp on a PTO, per Lou. Clutterbuck will not return.



Discuss!
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Sep 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
My takes:

An upper body injury isn't nearly as scary as it sounded when it was this cryptic battling "something" that Friedman originally reported. I immediately thought hips or knees, or something that could pose a longer-term problem and perhaps explain the less-than-dominant play we saw from Sorokin late last season relative to what we had gotten used to.

On Martin, I love what did for the organization and love that he still wants to be involved, but I'd rather see the Isles move on. But there's really no harm in bringing him in on a PTO even if it's just to force other players to take the role from him. If I had to choose between Martin or Clutterbuck on a PTO, though, I'd choose Clutterbuck, who can still pop in a few goals with that wrist shot and is just all around more effective.

Both Martin and Clutterbuck were awesome Islanders and excelled at a role that was far greater than just the sum of their abilities...and they did so even after most of us thought they were washed up. But, both should be replaceable at this stage of their careers. It's a bigger problem if other players can't outplay Martin at camp for a fourth-line spot.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 13 @ 11:04 AM ET
My takes:

An upper body injury isn't nearly as scary as it sounded when it was this cryptic battling "something" that Friedman originally reported. I immediately thought hips or knees, or something that could pose a longer-term problem and perhaps explain the less-than-dominant play we saw from Sorokin late last season relative to what we had gotten used to.

On Martin, I love what did for the organization and love that he still wants to be involved, but I'd rather see the Isles move on. But there's really no harm in bringing him in on a PTO even if it's just to force other players to take the role from him. If I had to choose between Martin or Clutterbuck on a PTO, though, I'd choose Clutterbuck, who can still pop in a few goals with that wrist shot and is just all around more effective.

Both Martin and Clutterbuck were awesome Islanders and excelled at a role that was far greater than just the sum of their abilities...and they did so even after most of us thought they were washed up. But, both should be replaceable at this stage of their careers. It's a bigger problem if other players can't outplay Martin at camp for a fourth-line spot.

- UIF

My guess is that Clutterbuck is confident he can get a bonafide contract elsewhere and I would probably agree with that. He's still serviceable and, if he's willing to accept a potential 13th forward role, a few teams could be after him.

I would hope, and think, that Martin doesn't get a deal. I don't really see the point.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
It’s a start.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ke-changes-to-ltir-rules/
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 13 @ 11:49 AM ET
Interesting:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...t-benefits-sunbelt-teams/
batteryjackson
New York Islanders
Location: MEDICINE HAT MEDICINE PUSHERS, AB
Joined: 09.30.2014

Sep 13 @ 12:26 PM ET
Interesting:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...t-benefits-sunbelt-teams/

- nyisles7



boohoo to places with poopty governments
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Sep 13 @ 12:34 PM ET
My guess is that Clutterbuck is confident he can get a bonafide contract elsewhere and I would probably agree with that. He's still serviceable and, if he's willing to accept a potential 13th forward role, a few teams could be after him.

I would hope, and think, that Martin doesn't get a deal. I don't really see the point.

- eichiefs9


Yep, agreed on Clutterbuck. Someone will have a hole to fill at the bottom of their forward roster and he'd be a good option for that.

Agree on Martin as well. The forwards fighting for roster spots better be able to out-compete him and it's probably best that they do.
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Sep 13 @ 1:46 PM ET
Haven't been on here in a while. Does not look I missed much. Anyway, was wondering, does anyone know what the cap ramifications would be if the Islanders sent Engvall to AHL?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 13 @ 2:36 PM ET
Haven't been on here in a while. Does not look I missed much. Anyway, was wondering, does anyone know what the cap ramifications would be if the Islanders sent Engvall to AHL?
- chazpet

That's really chiefs' department, but I think they save about $1 million off the cap.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 13 @ 5:53 PM ET
It’s going to be ok.
- Cptmjl


I know, but it is really fun breaking Shelley's ballz.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 13 @ 5:55 PM ET
Haven't been on here in a while. Does not look I missed much. Anyway, was wondering, does anyone know what the cap ramifications would be if the Islanders sent Engvall to AHL?
- chazpet

Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 13 @ 5:56 PM ET
That's really chiefs' department, but I think they save about $1 million off the cap.
- JohnScammo


The real question is how much do they save, if they ship his azz someplace else.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 13 @ 10:57 PM ET
That's really chiefs' department, but I think they save about $1 million off the cap.
- JohnScammo

More importantly, we would be saved from having to watch him play.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 14 @ 10:28 AM ET
Yooo Shelley...Really???How about a new blog. I mean team is back training and we 8 days from the first pre-season game. You cannot find anything new to talk about???
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 14 @ 11:00 AM ET
Yooo Shelley...Really???How about a new blog. I mean team is back training and we 8 days from the first pre-season game. You cannot find anything new to talk about???
- Nfdbulldawg


I could see Clutterbuck signing with the leafs. He still can add to any team looking for grit and a few G’s. Plus I think he played juniors with Tavares?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 14 @ 11:35 AM ET
Duclair has conformed to Lou’s wishes. He is dread less.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 14 @ 2:43 PM ET
I could see Clutterbuck signing with the leafs. He still can add to any team looking for grit and a few G’s. Plus I think he played juniors with Tavares?
- kindlyrick


I could see the Leafs offering CC is PTO or Contract.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 14 @ 6:35 PM ET
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 15 @ 7:51 AM ET
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 15 @ 7:53 AM ET
Yooo Shelley...Really???No new blog. I mean the team is back training and we 7 days from the first pre-season game. You cannot find anything new to talk about??? Heck even Lou had something to talk about.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 15 @ 3:05 PM ET

- Nfdbulldawg

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
Good read.

https://www.amny.com/spor...-islanders-intro-9-12-24/
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