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Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Jul 16 @ 9:03 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Islanders sign Simon Holmstrom and Jesse Pulkkinen
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 17 @ 6:17 AM ET
I just went to capfriendly to see how this impacts the Isles cap space, only to learn that the site has closed.
David_Volek
New York Islanders
Location: Trotzville, NY
Joined: 05.01.2013

Jul 17 @ 9:21 AM ET
The capitals bought the site and shut it down. Try this

https://capwages.com/
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 17 @ 9:24 AM ET
The capitals bought the site and shut it down. Try this

https://capwages.com/

- David_Volek

That site looks like they just scraped the existing data from CapFriendly and basically copied their page layout. I have my doubts that it'll be updated accurately/timely.

Puckpedia.com seems like it's going to be the heir-apparent to CapFriendly. They have dollar totals for Holmstrom/Pulkkinen deals already, where capwages does not.
David_Volek
New York Islanders
Location: Trotzville, NY
Joined: 05.01.2013

Jul 17 @ 9:29 AM ET
That site looks like they just scraped the existing data from CapFriendly and basically copied their page layout. I have my doubts that it'll be updated accurately/timely.

Puckpedia.com seems like it's going to be the heir-apparent to CapFriendly. They have dollar totals for Holmstrom/Pulkkinen deals already, where capwages does not.

- eichiefs9

Yes, it looks like Puckpedia.com is a better site.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 17 @ 11:10 AM ET
Isles are basically at the cap ceiling. Wonder what happens to Martin and Clutterbuck. I don’t believe they’ve signed anywhere. I could see Clutterbuck still playing somewhere, but I bet Martin gets a job with the franchise.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 17 @ 11:12 AM ET
#Isles HC Patrick Roy re Simon Holmstrom in stretch run of regular season:

"I want him to be better in his battles, his 1-on-1 compete [...] It's his turn to be patient and regain, maybe, my confidence or the coaching staff's confidence."

https://t.co/xpvjHHGbFv

I’d say that’s a pretty accurate assessment by Roy
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
#Isles HC Patrick Roy re Simon Holmstrom in stretch run of regular season:

"I want him to be better in his battles, his 1-on-1 compete

- kindlyrick[...] It's his turn to be patient and regain, maybe, my confidence or the coaching staff's confidence."

https://t.co/xpvjHHGbFv

I’d say that’s a pretty accurate assessment by Roy


Seems to be a theme with Islander prospects. They do not seem to be aggressive enough and take advantage of any opportunities.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:04 PM ET
Isles are basically at the cap ceiling. Wonder what happens to Martin and Clutterbuck. I don’t believe they’ve signed anywhere. I could see Clutterbuck still playing somewhere, but I bet Martin gets a job with the franchise.
- kindlyrick

At this point I think it's safe to assume neither will be back. They can exceed the cap by 10% in the summer if they do decide to bring Cal back at league minimum.

But I don't think Martin is an NHL'er anymore at this point nor should he have any place on this team. Love the guy and he's carved out his small spot in Isles history but he's more of a burden than an asset at this point.

What they could do is trade for a player who is on perma-LTIR to allow them to exceed the cap, but not sure they want to go that route. Funny that I saw your post immediately after reading this article
maximumcarnage
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.23.2007

Jul 17 @ 12:32 PM ET
Seems to be a theme with Islander prospects. They do not seem to be aggressive enough and take advantage of any opportunities.
- ses111

Yea it was good to see Maclean take advantage of his opportunity last season. Hopefully he keeps moving forward
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
Yea it was good to see Maclean take advantage of his opportunity last season. Hopefully he keeps moving forward
- maximumcarnage


It was good to see, and we need to see more of it.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
The capitals bought the site and shut it down. Try this

https://capwages.com/

- David_Volek

Thank you
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
That site looks like they just scraped the existing data from CapFriendly and basically copied their page layout. I have my doubts that it'll be updated accurately/timely.

Puckpedia.com seems like it's going to be the heir-apparent to CapFriendly. They have dollar totals for Holmstrom/Pulkkinen deals already, where capwages does not.

- eichiefs9

Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
That site looks like they just scraped the existing data from CapFriendly and basically copied their page layout. I have my doubts that it'll be updated accurately/timely.

Puckpedia.com seems like it's going to be the heir-apparent to CapFriendly. They have dollar totals for Holmstrom/Pulkkinen deals already, where capwages does not.

- eichiefs9


Thank you sir
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
Thank you sir
- Nfdbulldawg

I could be wrong about CapWages, but PuckPedia seems to be the new cap site generally accepted by the media, so that's the one I lean towards believing more
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:15 PM ET
At this point I think it's safe to assume neither will be back. They can exceed the cap by 10% in the summer if they do decide to bring Cal back at league minimum.

But I don't think Martin is an NHL'er anymore at this point nor should he have any place on this team. Love the guy and he's carved out his small spot in Isles history but he's more of a burden than an asset at this point.

What they could do is trade for a player who is on perma-LTIR to allow them to exceed the cap, but not sure they want to go that route. Funny that I saw your post immediately after reading this article

- eichiefs9

Krug?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 17 @ 2:37 PM ET
Krug?
- chazpet

I would guess not him, he's got the upcoming season plus two more on a relatively expensive deal. I'd imagine, if they did decide to go that route, that they'd want someone with only one year left on their deal.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 17 @ 2:47 PM ET
At this point I think it's safe to assume neither will be back. They can exceed the cap by 10% in the summer if they do decide to bring Cal back at league minimum.

But I don't think Martin is an NHL'er anymore at this point nor should he have any place on this team. Love the guy and he's carved out his small spot in Isles history but he's more of a burden than an asset at this point.

What they could do is trade for a player who is on perma-LTIR to allow them to exceed the cap, but not sure they want to go that route. Funny that I saw your post immediately after reading this article

- eichiefs9


Interesting. I wonder why a player on LTIR is trade eligible, but an injured player isn’t I believe. Isn’t that why players who are about to be dealt are sat?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 17 @ 3:57 PM ET
Interesting. I wonder why a player on LTIR is trade eligible, but an injured player isn’t I believe. Isn’t that why players who are about to be dealt are sat?
- kindlyrick

I think that's really more geared towards keeping the player healthy so the deal gets completed. If you're getting close to finalizing an agreement for a trade the last thing you want to do is have that player get injured and then all the sudden the other GM goes "yea thanks but no thanks, no more deal".

I believe what you're thinking of is that a player can't be bought out while (or because) they're injured. It seems that's what happened with Krug, STL was going to buy him out but it turned out he was dealing with this condition so then they couldn't.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 18 @ 11:40 AM ET
I think that's really more geared towards keeping the player healthy so the deal gets completed. If you're getting close to finalizing an agreement for a trade the last thing you want to do is have that player get injured and then all the sudden the other GM goes "yea thanks but no thanks, no more deal".

I believe what you're thinking of is that a player can't be bought out while (or because) they're injured. It seems that's what happened with Krug, STL was going to buy him out but it turned out he was dealing with this condition so then they couldn't.

- eichiefs9


I think where the wires cross in my brain is the insurance aspect. I always felt like the player was sat, because the new team trading wouldn’t be able to insure said player if inured. I’m not 100% on that but it’s what makes sense to me🤷🏻‍♂️
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 18 @ 12:58 PM ET
I think where the wires cross in my brain is the insurance aspect. I always felt like the player was sat, because the new team trading wouldn’t be able to insure said player if inured. I’m not 100% on that but it’s what makes sense to me🤷🏻‍♂️
- kindlyrick

Either way, it's just to mitigate the risk of damaging an asset. Not sure if the insurance policy would cover the contract itself and/or be transferrable from one team to another or not.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 18 @ 1:17 PM ET
I like the Holmstrom signing. It’s a make it or break it contract. I also loved Roy’s assessment of Holmstrom’s game.
What’s gonna happen with Wally? I mean this is the guy who would have bought us the cup if he played with Barzal in the PO’s. If they only let the youngsters play!
Interesting to see what they do with him.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 22 @ 6:39 AM ET
The sudden departure of Evgeny Kuznetsov last week to Russia could leave the Carolina Hurricanes scrambling to fill their second-line center position for 2024-25. They could employ Jesperi Kotkaniemi in that role, slide winger Martin Necas into that spot, or move up Jack Drury or Jordan Staal into that job.

If those four aren't up to the task, the Hurricanes could be in the market for a center by the trade deadline. Brock Nelson could be available if the New York Islanders are out of contention and become sellers.

Nelson, 32, fills the second-line center position for the Islanders. The 32-year-old is in the final season of his contract with a cap hit of $6 million and a 16-team no-trade list. He could be a perfect fit for the Hurricanes if they're not on his no-trade list.

The Hurricanes have $13.9 million in cap space right now but that will shrink once they re-sign restricted free agents Necas, Drury, and Seth Jarvis. Assuming they don't make a significant addition throughout the season, they'd have enough room for Nelson's cap hit. They could draw on their prospect depth to pitch an intriguing offer to the Isles.


https://bleacherreport.co...e-2025-nhl-trade-deadline
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:34 AM ET
Happy Easter everyone.
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 24 @ 10:50 AM ET
Happy Easter everyone.
- Cptmjl


And a Merry Christmas!
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