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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 2:33 PM ET
Ugh, Farabee must be asking himself WTF. How am I stuck in this lineup? This is brutal.
For the record ND has no place on an NHL roster.
I would rather Ollie play so at least the 4th line can be put out more than 6 minutes a game on average.

- bird_dog_pa

Hey look at the brightside, if anyone on the Islanders messes with Farabee, Nick will be there to chase them around the ice, and if he catches them, beat them up. I think Lycksell is going to make the Flyers somehow, possibly over Brink, who unfortunately I think is still in Tort's crosshairs.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 30 @ 2:46 PM ET
Why trade Risto? 1. He has trade value for contending teams looking for a physical presence on their backend, 2. He makes too much money and the Flyers need the cap space, 3. There are kids ready to step in and take his spot (Andrae, Ginning for example). Depending on matchups game to game, I don't mind if Andrae starts out as the 7th defenseman and works his way into the lineup due to injuries or strong play. Not sure how much more he is going to develop in the AHL.
- jd250

1. he has no trade value to a contending team. no contending team is taking on that contract. his physical play is so severely overrated. he has ZERO playoff experience.

2. why do the flyers need the cap space?

3. RR plays the right side, those 2 play the left. RR is not stopping either of them.

flyers trying to make the playoffs. you think they will "weaken" their back end and move out RR? let's say they do, you think they put in a "young" player or will they then try to acquire yet another vet
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 30 @ 2:47 PM ET
Would you rather Andrae develop under Lappy or under Torts and Shaw? For me, I want him with Shaw, who has shown since he has been here he can develop defenseman, e.g York, Risto and even Walker last season.
- jd250

he hasn't "developed" RR nor has he "developed" Walker.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 30 @ 3:20 PM ET
Ugh, Farabee must be asking himself WTF. How am I stuck in this lineup? This is brutal.
For the record ND has no place on an NHL roster.
I would rather Ollie play so at least the 4th line can be put out more than 6 minutes a game on average.

- bird_dog_pa


Probably punishment for that awful SH turnover lol
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Sep 30 @ 4:12 PM ET
I’m watching the PHLY Flyers podcast right now, and they’re just going off about the amount of pre season games there are. Not to mention, making the interesting point that the Flyers last pre season game is against the Devils and supposedly the Devils first regular season game is the next night in another continent…which means the Flyers aren’t really playing the Devils the night before, which could risk injury for the Flyers.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 30 @ 4:18 PM ET
I’m watching the PHLY Flyers podcast right now, and they’re just going off about the amount of pre season games there are. Not to mention, making the interesting point that the Flyers last pre season game is against the Devils and supposedly the Devils first regular season game is the next night in another continent…which means the Flyers aren’t really playing the Devils the night before, which could risk injury for the Flyers.
- roenick97
I have no idea what the Devils schedule is and nor do I care, but if the Devils really play in Philly, and then play overseas to open their regular season the next night that is a serious gaffe by the league. Pretty long flight and they also would lose 5 hours of time flying to Europe.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 30 @ 4:19 PM ET
Would you rather Andrae develop under Lappy or under Torts and Shaw? For me, I want him with Shaw, who has shown since he has been here he can develop defenseman, e.g York, Risto and even Walker last season.
- jd250


So dis he developed enough under lappy to be a flyer this season ?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Sep 30 @ 4:27 PM ET
1. he has no trade value to a contending team. no contending team is taking on that contract. his physical play is so severely overrated. he has ZERO playoff experience.

2. why do the flyers need the cap space?

3. RR plays the right side, those 2 play the left. RR is not stopping either of them.

flyers trying to make the playoffs. you think they will "weaken" their back end and move out RR? let's say they do, you think they put in a "young" player or will they then try to acquire yet another vet

- hello it's me 2050

Ristolainen is a dead horse.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 30 @ 4:46 PM ET
1. he has no trade value to a contending team. no contending team is taking on that contract. his physical play is so severely overrated. he has ZERO playoff experience.

2. why do the flyers need the cap space?

3. RR plays the right side, those 2 play the left. RR is not stopping either of them.

flyers trying to make the playoffs. you think they will "weaken" their back end and move out RR? let's say they do, you think they put in a "young" player or will they then try to acquire yet another vet

- hello it's me 2050


The literally did what you are claiming they wont do last season. They had Walker who was playing great in a top 4 role and moved him despite holding a playoff position. They are not in Win mode yet. Briere would just like the young players on the team to taste the playoff atmosphere. Playoff games are significantly different than regular seasojn games.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 30 @ 5:08 PM ET
The literally did what you are claiming they wont do last season. They had Walker who was playing great in a top 4 role and moved him despite holding a playoff position. They are not in Win mode yet. Briere would just like the young players on the team to taste the playoff atmosphere. Playoff games are significantly different than regular seasojn games.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx
If they make the playoffs this year I will eat my shorts. I just don't see it. You have the Rags, Devils, Canes, Cats, Laffs and Bruins probably finishing in the top 3 of their respective divisions. The Bolts will probably nab one of the wild card spots, so that leaves one spot for the Isles, Caps, Pens, Sens, Sabres and Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 30 @ 5:13 PM ET
Would you rather Andrae develop under Lappy or under Torts and Shaw? For me, I want him with Shaw, who has shown since he has been here he can develop defenseman, e.g York, Risto and even Walker last season.
- jd250


I understand that it's a binary choice right now but my preference is that they get rid of the entire coaching staff. The issue is that you think that Shaw is something that he is not. He is an average assistant coach and he hasn't shown to me that he is anything special as a coach. York is a young player still developing. Walker just needed to get healthy and Ristolainen has not improved. He has regressed as a Flyer. Not at all blaming that on Shaw. It was bound to happen with Ristolainen.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 30 @ 5:15 PM ET
Hey look at the brightside, if anyone on the Islanders messes with Farabee, Nick will be there to chase them around the ice, and if he catches them, beat them up. I think Lycksell is going to make the Flyers somehow, possibly over Brink, who unfortunately I think is still in Tort's crosshairs.
- jd250



Brink has looked pretty good in the pre season action I have seen of him.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 30 @ 5:15 PM ET
I understand that it's a binary choice right now but my preference is that they get rid of the entire coaching staff. The issue is that you think that Shaw is something that he is not. He is an average assistant coach and he hasn't shown to me that he is anything special as a coach. York is a young player still developing. Walker just needed to get healthy and Ristolainen has not improved. He has regressed as a Flyer. Not at all blaming that on Shaw. It was bound to happen with Ristolainen.
- MJL
Why did Walker suck when he went to Colorado? I heard he wasn't very good for the Avs in the playoffs. Shaw is da man!
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Sep 30 @ 5:15 PM ET
I have no idea what the Devils schedule is and nor do I care, but if the Devils really play in Philly, and then play overseas to open their regular season the next night that is a serious gaffe by the league. Pretty long flight and they also would lose 5 hours of time flying to Europe.
- Phillywhiteout

You missed the point but thanks for this…

And don’t try to convince me you don’t care or you understood. Trust me, you missed the point and would have been better off not saying anything.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 30 @ 5:20 PM ET
If they make the playoffs this year I will eat my shorts. I just don't see it. You have the Rags, Devils, Canes, Cats, Laffs and Bruins probably finishing in the top 3 of their respective divisions. The Bolts will probably nab one of the wild card spots, so that leaves one spot for the Isles, Caps, Pens, Sens, Sabres and Flyers.
- Phillywhiteout


I think they make it. So much can go wrong for a lot of those teams just like with what happened in NJ last season. Bostons starter right now is Korpisalo. Who knows how long Swayman will hold out. Hes also never been a full fledged starter. Rangers will heavily rely on shesterkin. CAR goaltending is suspect. Leafs are running pretty much a dcore full of bottom pair D. Have no fepth as usual. They heavily rely on the core 4. One of which is 34 now and showing signs of a decline

I would love to see them as a bottom 10 team but i think they make it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 30 @ 5:20 PM ET
The literally did what you are claiming they wont do last season. They had Walker who was playing great in a top 4 role and moved him despite holding a playoff position. They are not in Win mode yet. Briere would just like the young players on the team to taste the playoff atmosphere. Playoff games are significantly different than regular seasojn games.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


They moved Walker because they couldn't come to a contract agreement. Building the talent of the team up is significantly more important than giving any young player a taste of the playoffs. If a team is developed well, that playoff experience will eventually come inevitably. If the Flyers make the playoffs this upcoming season, that will be a disaster for this franchise. I'm hoping that they see and recognize what introducing an elite talent like Michkov can do and think, hey we need more of that and focus on the draft. However the most likely is that they think it is "go" time and escalate with trade and free agency as soon as they can.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 30 @ 5:20 PM ET
You missed the point but thanks for this…

And don’t try to convince me you don’t care or you understood. Trust me, you missed the point and would have been better off not saying anything.

- roenick97
WTF is your problem? You are such a dumb snarky turd. I was just commenting that the league wouldn't schedule such a thing unless they were as dumb as you are. I have no idea what your point was and nor do I care. I will refrain from commenting on any of your posts going forward (unless you have some dumb retort to this comment). Oh, have you figured out what a cliche actually is yet genius?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 30 @ 5:24 PM ET
Why did Walker suck when he went to Colorado? I heard he wasn't very good for the Avs in the playoffs. Shaw is da man!
- Phillywhiteout


The crap you post is hysterical.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 30 @ 5:25 PM ET
I think they make it. So much can go wrong for a lot of those teams just like with what happened in NJ last season. Bostons starter right now is Korpisalo. Who knows how long Swayman will hold out. Hes also never been a full fledged starter. Rangers will heavily rely on shesterkin. CAR goaltending is suspect. Leafs are running pretty much a dcore full of bottom pair D. Have no fepth as usual. They heavily rely on the core 4. One of which is 34 now and showing signs of a decline

I would love to see them as a bottom 10 team but i think they make it

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



This is typical of what you do. You list all the potential "ifs" of other teams, who happen to be a lot better than the Flyers are and say the Flyers are going to make it. Meanwhile ignoring all the "ifs" of the Flyers as if they don't exist. Not to mention that some of it is wrong or poorly thought out.


It's called homerism.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 30 @ 5:26 PM ET
The crap you post is hysterical.

- MJL
They couldn't get him out of Colorado fast enough and he was the Flyers best defender when he was here. Shaw can't be dismissed entirely.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 30 @ 5:35 PM ET
They couldn't get him out of Colorado fast enough and he was the Flyers best defender when he was here. Shaw can't be dismissed entirely.

- Phillywhiteout


Small game sample in Colorado. He wasn't the teams best defender when he was here. Shaw hasn't been dismissed entirely. I labeled him an average coach.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 30 @ 5:44 PM ET
Small game sample in Colorado. He wasn't the teams best defender when he was here. Shaw hasn't been dismissed entirely. I labeled him an average coach.
- MJL
Which defender on the Flyers last year was better than Walker?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Sep 30 @ 5:49 PM ET
I think they make it. So much can go wrong for a lot of those teams just like with what happened in NJ last season. Bostons starter right now is Korpisalo. Who knows how long Swayman will hold out. Hes also never been a full fledged starter. Rangers will heavily rely on shesterkin. CAR goaltending is suspect. Leafs are running pretty much a dcore full of bottom pair D. Have no fepth as usual. They heavily rely on the core 4. One of which is 34 now and showing signs of a decline

I would love to see them as a bottom 10 team but i think they make it

- xShoot4WarAmpsx
You aren't taking into account that those teams you mentioned are all deeper than the Flyers and can handle some shortcomings. The Rags have some stud defenders and still plenty of firepower. The Bruins are deep and very sound defensively for the most part. Carolina is a very good team despite their questions in goal. The Leafs will easily make the playoffs. I will go on record as of this date that the Flyers will finish in the bottom 10 this season. I hope I'm wrong cause I wanna see some playoff hockey, but I just don't see it. Of course, we shall see how it plays out.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 30 @ 5:50 PM ET
The literally did what you are claiming they wont do last season. They had Walker who was playing great in a top 4 role and moved him despite holding a playoff position. They are not in Win mode yet. Briere would just like the young players on the team to taste the playoff atmosphere. Playoff games are significantly different than regular seasojn games.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

do you ever use context? would have been dumb to keep a pending free agent don't you think? guess you forgot about the little detail they tried to sign him.

also the CO-GM is the one saying playoffs are the goal. that is a 100% fact.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 30 @ 5:54 PM ET
Which defender on the Flyers last year was better than Walker?
- Phillywhiteout


Sanheim and York
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