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Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 7 @ 6:32 PM ET
came right from the horses mouth.

also wow they get 750. how long will that last 3 days? meanwhile those filthy illegal aliens get debit cards, phones, food, housing, schooling, and monthly pmt some over 1000 a month. f that.

take care of your own. or do you disagree?

- hello it's me 2050


Go ahead and find a quote where he links the funding of the two. You won't find it.

Those are 2 separate statements put into a single sentence to generate the maximum outrage. There are numerous quotes from the relevant people and departments denying it because it simply isn't true.

I am done on the subject because no facts or context or perspective will sway you.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 6:35 PM ET
Again they are funded separately, the amount spent on migrants has no bearing disaster aid. The summarized statement has been crafted to imply otherwise. Easily fact checked and links have been provided previously.
- Flyers_01


That's false actually but I'm against any side using the hurricanes as a political football.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Oct 7 @ 6:37 PM ET
Sorry if Leight

Flyers practice the power play today.

Unit 1
Michkov, Konency, Tippett, Frost and Drysdale

Unit 2
Luchanko, Farabee, Foerster, Brink and Zamula

Obviously it’s a big deal Sean Couturier not on either unit but I feel more for Farabee. Joel Farabee needs to given a bigger push than probably anyone at forward in the line up, including Michkov.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Oct 7 @ 6:40 PM ET
Sorry if Leight

Flyers practice the power play today.

Unit 1
Michkov, Konency, Tippett, Frost and Drysdale

Unit 2
Luchanko, Farabee, Foerster, Brink and Zamula

Obviously it’s a big deal Sean Couturier not on either unit but I feel more for Farabee. Joel Farabee needs to given a bigger push than probably anyone at forward in the line up, including Michkov.

- roenick97



I see both lines has having speed now.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Oct 7 @ 6:45 PM ET
I see both lines has having speed now.
- WhiskeyMan

What lines?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 7 @ 6:50 PM ET
Why is that statement over stated and over rated? If that is true then why do you bring up the possibility that he could go past the 9 games and it would be a problem? You're contradicting yourself.
- MJL
You need to read the entire comment apparently. I said "If he goes past 9 games and it's painfully obvious that he is in over his head that would be a problem". Not contradicting myself at all. It's well explained. Now, if he goes past 9 games and acquits himself well then so be it. Again, from what I have seen he is not ready for the NHL, but I don't see him in practice and scrimmages everyday.

Oh great, the political zealots are back.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 6:58 PM ET
You need to read the entire comment apparently. I said "If he goes past 9 games and it's painfully obvious that he is in over his head that would be a problem". Not contradicting myself at all. It's well explained. Now, if he goes past 9 games and acquits himself well then so be it. Again, from what I have seen he is not ready for the NHL, but I don't see him in practice and scrimmages everyday.

Oh great, the political zealots are back.

- Phillywhiteout


Another simple issue that I have to explain to you. First off you claim that the statement of a player is never hurt by being sent down but can be by being rushed, which has been proven to be true over and over, is overused and overstated. Brushing it off, obviously not because it isn't true, but simply because I said it. Then you go to say that if he goes past the 9 games and shows that he's in over his head, it's a problem. Why is it a problem? What problem would there be in sending him back to juniors?

Do you think he's showing himself better in lower intensity practices and scrimmages than he is in games against opponents?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 7 @ 7:22 PM ET
Another simple issue that I have to explain to you. First off you claim that the statement of a player is never hurt by being sent down but can be by being rushed, which has been proven to be true over and over, is overused and overstated. Brushing it off, obviously not because it isn't true, but simply because I said it. Then you go to say that if he goes past the 9 games and shows that he's in over his head, it's a problem. Why is it a problem? What problem would there be in sending him back to juniors?

Do you think he's showing himself better in lower intensity practices and scrimmages than he is in games against opponents?

- MJL
Well, for one thing if he makes it past 9 games they burn off a year of his contract. Again, do you read my comments before you think about a retort? I don't have a problem with him being sent down. How do you know players are never hurt by being sent down? How many players have been hurt by being rushed? You have facts for this or just more here say? You're the stat guy. There are no stats for this?

On another note, I see that Buium didn't make the opening night roster. Hmmm...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 7:29 PM ET
Well, for one thing if he makes it past 9 games they burn off a year of his contract. Again, do you read my comments before you think about a retort? I don't have a problem with him being sent down. How do you know players are never hurt by being sent down? How many players have been hurt by being rushed? You have facts for this or just more here say? You're the stat guy. There are no stats for this?
- Phillywhiteout



The context of the conversation is about the development of a player. If a year of his ELC is burned, how does that affect his development, good or bad? You don't have any common sense to grasp that.
How can Luchanko be hurt by being sent back to juniors? What player has had his development path hurt by going back to juniors for his D+1 season? Do I seriously have to provide how many players have been hurt but having their development rushed to the NHL? Where do you think the saying I gave comes from? Congrats, you have reached your goal again today.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 7 @ 7:31 PM ET
The context of the conversation is about the development of a player. If a year of his ELC is burned, how does that affect his development, good or bad? You don't have any common sense to grasp that.
How can Luchanko be hurt by being sent back to juniors? What player has had his development path hurt by going back to juniors for his D+1 season? Do I seriously have to provide how many players have been hurt but having their development rushed to the NHL? Where do you think the saying I gave comes from? Congrats, you have reached your goal again today.

- MJL
Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth. Where did I say that Jett's development would be hurt by being sent back to his junior team. I never said such a thing. And you point the finger at me about my common sense? Buium not on his team's opening night roster? Whoops!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 7 @ 7:37 PM ET
This team is going to blow chunks. I can’t wait.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 7:41 PM ET
Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth. Where did I say that Jett's development would be hurt by being sent back to his junior team. I never said such a thing. And you point the finger at me about my common sense? Buium not on his team's opening night roster? Whoops!
- Phillywhiteout


My how you make a fool of yourself. LOL NO words are being put in your mouth. No where did I say or imply that you said that his development would be hurt by being sent back to juniors. You laughably stated that the premise of no player is hurt by being sent to the minors but many players are hurt by being rushed, was overused and overstated. Did you or did you not say that? So again I'll ask you, since you object to that statement, how is a player like Luchanko going to be hurt by being sent back to juniors? Again, to clarify so you understand a simple thing, I'm not saying you said that, it's a question I am asking you.

Buium shouldn't be on the Wild's opening night roster. He's an 18 year old defenseman. What are you trying to imply there?
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Oct 7 @ 7:46 PM ET
Well, for one thing if he makes it past 9 games they burn off a year of his contract. Again, do you read my comments before you think about a retort? I don't have a problem with him being sent down. How do you know players are never hurt by being sent down? How many players have been hurt by being rushed? You have facts for this or just more here say? You're the stat guy. There are no stats for this?

On another note, I see that Buium didn't make the opening night roster. Hmmm...

- Phillywhiteout


he's still in college, you jackass
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 7:50 PM ET
he's still in college, you jackass
- THE BLACK HAND


Oh c'mon Bro! You ruined that.
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 7 @ 7:51 PM ET
https://nypost.com/2024/10/07/world-news/oct-7-anniversary-live-updates-nyc-protests-and-memorials-around-the-world/

beyond sickening.

- hello it's me 2050


You could give me and 50 of my buds about 2 hrs on any campus, and it would end quickly with no more anti-Semitic riots. Of course there would be a few dead, and seriously wounded, but it would be over quickly! F those morons!! Just turn us loose!! Sick of this sh!t!! Don’t care what you believe, but this nonsense has to be stopped! Have the state department call me……. Oh that’s right, they don’t give a sh!t, or they would have put an end to it! So sad!!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 7 @ 7:55 PM ET
Oh c'mon Bro! You ruined that.

- MJL
Buium sucks! If he was good enough he would be in the NHL, but nah! Don't wanna ruin the whiners agenda! Luchanko is YOUNGER than Buium and already in the NHL! Eh what?
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Oct 7 @ 8:01 PM ET
What lines?
- roenick97


Sorry units, not lines
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 8:01 PM ET
Buium sucks! If he was good enough he would be in the NHL, but nah! Don't wanna ruin the whiners agenda! Luchanko is YOUNGER than Buium and already in the NHL! Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout


Just when I think you've hit rock bottom, you show that you can be dumber. Buium is not even signed to a contract yet. Are you really this clueless?

Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 7 @ 8:04 PM ET
Just when I think you've hit rock bottom, you show that you can be dumber. Buium is not even signed to a contract yet. Are you really this clueless?
- MJL
You don't think if he was good enough he wouldn't be signed to a contract. Why must I have to explain the obvious to you all the time? Oh, that's right. If it doesn't have stats attached to it you are lost.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Oct 7 @ 8:05 PM ET
I have no idea why it is such a big deal to folks that Jett made the team out of camp. He'll get a few games (up to 9) and most likely be sent back to junior. So what? But wait, a certain someone said that he absolutely wouldn't make the team out of camp. Whoops!!
- Phillywhiteout


Yep, because that person only goes based on stats and not watching the game lol

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 8:09 PM ET
You don't think if he was good enough he wouldn't be signed to a contract. Why must I have to explain the obvious to you all the time? Oh, that's right. If it doesn't have stats attached to it you are lost.
- Phillywhiteout



Buium wanted to go back for another year of college hockey to defend the national championship and to play for USA again in the world junior championship. That is his choice. Buium is a top 15 rated NHL prospect. Are you seriously trying to say that he's not signed to a contract because he's not good enough? LOL. Tell me you're not this dense.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Oct 7 @ 8:12 PM ET
Good for Jett. Seems he made an impression on the coach and management. Worse case, he gets sent back to a bad junior team, with invaluable experience of what he needs to work on. I have no idea why people have an issue with this.
- mikeyo27

Exactly, the ppl that have a issue with this don't understand hockey, when is having vital information a bad thing.

Getting more experience is always better.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 7 @ 8:16 PM ET
Buium wanted to go back for another year of college hockey to defend the national championship and to play for USA again in the world junior championship. That is his choice. Buium is a top 15 rated NHL prospect. Are you seriously trying to say that he's not signed to a contract because he's not good enough? LOL. Tell me you're not this dense.
- MJL
He's soft! The best players wanna play in the best league in the world as soon as possible. Waaaaa...I wanna defend out national title and play for team USA at the World Juniors. He isn't NHL ready apparently!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 8:18 PM ET
He's soft! The best players wanna play in the best league in the world as soon as possible. Waaaaa...I wanna defend out national title and play for team USA at the World Juniors. He isn't NHL ready apparently!
- Phillywhiteout


Keep on keeping on! Have to love it.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Oct 7 @ 8:18 PM ET
Use your brain and try to answer your own questions once in a while.

A lot to gain.

“his confidence will be shot” is the biggest crock of sh!t I’ve ever heard in regards to the “downside”

- anti-lame

Well said 👍
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